WEBVTT b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17-0 00:00:12.672 --> 00:00:15.002 Fine, that's actually recording now. Good. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/20-0 00:00:17.042 --> 00:00:18.992 OK so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/31-0 00:00:19.872 --> 00:00:23.624 Hello, welcome to our session on Creative Sense of place in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/31-1 00:00:23.624 --> 00:00:24.062 poetry. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/33-0 00:00:25.112 --> 00:00:26.172 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/35-0 00:00:30.202 --> 00:00:30.802 I think. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/47-0 00:00:32.392 --> 00:00:36.342 Our first focus, the first thing I want to talk about is. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/67-0 00:00:36.962 --> 00:00:40.671 I thought use of specific concrete detail. This is so b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/67-1 00:00:40.671 --> 00:00:44.242 fundamental really to any form of creative writing. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/69-0 00:00:45.132 --> 00:00:45.752 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/89-0 00:00:47.132 --> 00:00:50.718 So when you go to your research, whether it's in person or b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/89-1 00:00:50.718 --> 00:00:54.607 indirectly using other sources, you're you're actually going to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/89-2 00:00:54.607 --> 00:00:55.762 a place to observe. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/114-0 00:00:57.162 --> 00:01:02.099 What you want to be particularly focusing on is the specifics b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/114-1 00:01:02.099 --> 00:01:06.717 sensory information, the little particularities, and then b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/114-2 00:01:06.717 --> 00:01:10.062 reaching through those for the universal. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/128-0 00:01:10.702 --> 00:01:13.781 And that's really the bottom line. I think in, in poetry, as b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/128-1 00:01:13.781 --> 00:01:14.942 much as any other form. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/140-0 00:01:15.892 --> 00:01:19.801 I just want to share with you some quotes I put up on the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/140-1 00:01:19.801 --> 00:01:20.542 PowerPoint. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/145-0 00:01:22.872 --> 00:01:23.952 Shane. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/157-0 00:01:34.032 --> 00:01:38.902 8 can everybody see a PowerPoint on their screens? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/162-0 00:01:39.172 --> 00:01:39.802 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/161-0 00:01:39.192 --> 00:01:39.622 Yep. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/165-0 00:01:39.912 --> 00:01:40.962 Yeah. Good. OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/194-0 00:01:41.682 --> 00:01:45.408 So it's a couple of nice quotes here, which I think under him b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/194-1 00:01:45.408 --> 00:01:49.015 what I've been saying. So the first is from John Steinberg, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/194-2 00:01:49.015 --> 00:01:52.561 not poetry obviously, but I think it's relevant. It's east b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/194-3 00:01:52.561 --> 00:01:53.042 of Eden. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/205-0 00:01:54.322 --> 00:01:58.352 I remember my childhood names for grasses and secret flowers. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/220-0 00:01:59.062 --> 00:02:02.664 I remember where a toad may live and what time the birds awaken b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/220-1 00:02:02.664 --> 00:02:03.452 in the summer. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/236-0 00:02:05.052 --> 00:02:08.307 And what the season smelled like, how people looked and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/236-1 00:02:08.307 --> 00:02:09.702 walked and smelled even. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/245-0 00:02:10.392 --> 00:02:12.992 Memory of orders is very rich. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/276-0 00:02:14.492 --> 00:02:18.244 I think it's certainly the case, isn't it? When you reach back to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/276-1 00:02:18.244 --> 00:02:21.712 a childhood memory on particular memory of place, how strong b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/276-2 00:02:21.712 --> 00:02:25.123 those sensory impressions can still be, even from years and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/276-3 00:02:25.123 --> 00:02:25.692 years ago. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/283-0 00:02:26.582 --> 00:02:28.952 How you can just bring that place back just. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/299-0 00:02:30.362 --> 00:02:34.252 Just through accessing. Yeah, sensory details. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/290-0 00:02:30.742 --> 00:02:31.362 Back to life. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/333-0 00:02:35.982 --> 00:02:39.868 And then the second quote, which is by Tim Cresswell, who's a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/333-1 00:02:39.868 --> 00:02:43.754 pirate and academic, and it's actually from his PhD, which is b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/333-2 00:02:43.754 --> 00:02:47.452 called towards Toppo Poetics, which is a term he invented. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/362-0 00:02:48.412 --> 00:02:53.029 A place is a unique assemblage. The things that constitute a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/362-1 00:02:53.029 --> 00:02:57.571 place often appear to us as specific to that place, even if b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/362-2 00:02:57.571 --> 00:03:00.902 they have in fact travelled from elsewhere. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/383-0 00:03:01.922 --> 00:03:05.682 Things form a particular topography of place at the same b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/383-1 00:03:05.682 --> 00:03:09.772 time as her journals link the inside of a place to elsewhere. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/405-0 00:03:10.932 --> 00:03:14.832 Poetry is one way in which we stop and wonder at the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/405-1 00:03:14.832 --> 00:03:18.732 specificity of the way things appear to us in place. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/426-0 00:03:19.652 --> 00:03:24.373 Poetry involves being attentive to things and the ways in which b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/426-1 00:03:24.373 --> 00:03:28.652 they are gathered. Poetry is an encounter with the world. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/453-0 00:03:29.702 --> 00:03:33.279 So again, there's that stress, isn't there on, on the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/453-1 00:03:33.279 --> 00:03:37.519 particular detail and through it reaching towards what you want b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/453-2 00:03:37.519 --> 00:03:39.772 to say on a more universal level. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/463-0 00:03:41.262 --> 00:03:45.562 So I actually want to give you a little exercise to do. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/472-0 00:03:56.442 --> 00:03:59.772 And I just spent the screen big again. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/500-0 00:04:00.992 --> 00:04:04.528 But just give you 5 minutes. I just want you to think of a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/500-1 00:04:04.528 --> 00:04:08.243 place that was important to you in childhood. It could be any b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/500-2 00:04:08.243 --> 00:04:09.022 place at all. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/511-0 00:04:09.692 --> 00:04:14.361 For many points in your childhood, and just to write b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/511-1 00:04:14.361 --> 00:04:14.802 down. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/526-0 00:04:15.642 --> 00:04:20.319 Any very particular details, specific sensory impressions b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/526-1 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:23.142 that you remember from that place? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/538-0 00:04:24.112 --> 00:04:28.708 OK, don't worry too much about finessing and it can be just in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/538-1 00:04:28.708 --> 00:04:29.802 note form just. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/550-0 00:04:30.912 --> 00:04:34.663 Any any of those are very particular memories, colours, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/550-1 00:04:34.663 --> 00:04:35.802 textures, sounds. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/554-0 00:04:36.662 --> 00:04:38.662 That kind of thing, right? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/557-0 00:04:39.532 --> 00:04:40.512 And so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/563-0 00:04:44.712 --> 00:04:45.292 We care. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/566-0 00:04:44.712 --> 00:04:46.622 So did you say 5 minutes? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/572-0 00:04:47.102 --> 00:04:48.732 About 5 minutes, yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/578-0 00:04:49.382 --> 00:04:50.682 I've got my little timer here. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/583-0 00:04:52.152 --> 00:04:54.242 Excellent. I need one of them. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/587-0 00:04:54.822 --> 00:04:56.272 OK, I did. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/585-0 00:04:55.042 --> 00:04:55.492 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/689-0 00:09:14.732 --> 00:09:16.352 And let's stop there. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/692-0 00:09:19.702 --> 00:09:20.092 Brilliant. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/695-0 00:09:21.102 --> 00:09:22.092 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/700-0 00:09:23.232 --> 00:09:24.782 How did you all get on with that? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/702-0 00:09:25.262 --> 00:09:25.662 Good. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/707-0 00:09:28.392 --> 00:09:31.232 So would you like to share? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/711-0 00:09:32.482 --> 00:09:33.962 Where do you like to? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/713-0 00:09:35.282 --> 00:09:35.702 Just. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/723-0 00:09:39.252 --> 00:09:40.672 And it's a bit about what you put. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/722-0 00:09:39.942 --> 00:09:40.472 Oh my. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/731-0 00:09:45.332 --> 00:09:47.722 Didn't think we're just unmute really slowly. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/754-0 00:09:49.482 --> 00:09:54.169 OK, the thing that I remembered was the triangular corner of the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/754-1 00:09:54.169 --> 00:09:58.567 end of the back garden at our Council house in Hayes in West b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/754-2 00:09:58.567 --> 00:09:59.072 London. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/798-0 00:09:59.742 --> 00:10:04.346 And it was unusual. It had three gardens. It had a side garden as b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/798-1 00:10:04.346 --> 00:10:08.532 well. But this this was one little pinnacle bit at the end. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/798-2 00:10:08.532 --> 00:10:12.578 So I remember the overhanging lilac bushes, the edging of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/798-3 00:10:12.578 --> 00:10:16.554 chain link fence. I felt enclosed and safe in the shaded b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/798-4 00:10:16.554 --> 00:10:17.182 dampness. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/830-0 00:10:17.812 --> 00:10:21.595 And it was a raised area, this corner, perhaps a former b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/830-1 00:10:21.595 --> 00:10:25.784 rockery. But I never considered why. I just accepted it as it b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/830-2 00:10:25.784 --> 00:10:29.702 was, and to my mind, always had been and always would be. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/856-0 00:10:30.942 --> 00:10:34.576 The apex of the triangle had a gap into next doors garden. I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/856-1 00:10:34.576 --> 00:10:38.091 never would breach this, but my younger sister coolly went b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/856-2 00:10:38.091 --> 00:10:39.342 through all the time. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/921-0 00:10:39.962 --> 00:10:43.702 As at home with the neighbours, five children as she was with b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/921-1 00:10:43.702 --> 00:10:47.563 us, I stayed with the wood lice carefully, not crushing them as b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/921-2 00:10:47.563 --> 00:10:51.122 I moved while she toddled obliviously, obliviously through b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/921-3 00:10:51.122 --> 00:10:54.802 to her social life. So it was it was. It was my little place b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/921-4 00:10:54.802 --> 00:10:58.481 where I would stay and be quiet and she just went through it b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/921-5 00:10:58.481 --> 00:11:02.342 like it's just just, it's just a gateway to something more fun. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/915-0 00:10:59.672 --> 00:10:59.922 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/929-0 00:11:04.022 --> 00:11:06.422 Possibly illustrates the difference between us. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/946-0 00:11:07.672 --> 00:11:10.921 That's that's fabulous actually an already there are sort of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/946-1 00:11:10.921 --> 00:11:12.412 themes coming through there. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/960-0 00:11:13.092 --> 00:11:16.612 Contrast between the sisters and what the place meant to you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/965-0 00:11:19.012 --> 00:11:20.232 I love those little details. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/969-0 00:11:21.022 --> 00:11:21.612 Answered. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/974-0 00:11:25.742 --> 00:11:26.512 Anyone else? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/975-0 00:11:26.242 --> 00:11:26.962 You will notice. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/977-0 00:11:28.312 --> 00:11:28.792 Discussion. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/979-0 00:11:28.862 --> 00:11:29.442 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/994-0 00:11:37.072 --> 00:11:40.576 The secret places in Billings is so important, aren't they? In b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/994-1 00:11:40.576 --> 00:11:41.132 childhood? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/997-0 00:11:42.232 --> 00:11:42.612 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1049-0 00:11:42.262 --> 00:11:45.802 Yeah, I think it's fascinating that you don't at the time you b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1004-0 00:11:43.272 --> 00:11:43.842 Just see. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1049-1 00:11:45.802 --> 00:11:49.285 don't realize that it's not something that everyone does and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1049-2 00:11:49.285 --> 00:11:52.712 that you just assume you'll do it all your life there will. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1049-3 00:11:52.712 --> 00:11:56.138 There will always be this and you've got no sense of of the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1049-4 00:11:56.138 --> 00:11:59.450 passage of time. I don't think for for when you're a very b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1049-5 00:11:59.450 --> 00:12:00.192 little child. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1052-0 00:12:01.772 --> 00:12:02.132 Testing. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1078-0 00:12:02.672 --> 00:12:05.806 And those kind of places have that kind of stillness. It's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1078-1 00:12:05.806 --> 00:12:09.152 like you could you could kind of you've got no idea concept of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1078-2 00:12:09.152 --> 00:12:10.692 time in those kind of places. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1093-0 00:12:11.702 --> 00:12:14.581 It could be like 2 minutes, so it could be an hour and you b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1093-1 00:12:14.581 --> 00:12:16.972 still sat there. Like look at the wood lace and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1098-0 00:12:18.112 --> 00:12:19.382 And your little world. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1178-0 00:12:20.592 --> 00:12:24.063 I used to have a family of wood lice. I used to make a cabin on b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1178-1 00:12:24.063 --> 00:12:27.263 the veranda. I say verandas sounds Porteous. No, Portia at b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1178-2 00:12:27.263 --> 00:12:30.572 all, just a concrete. And I used to hide hide in this little b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1178-3 00:12:30.572 --> 00:12:33.664 cubby place and they have a family of woodlice all under b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1178-4 00:12:33.664 --> 00:12:36.972 these bricks and I should just love them. I should watch her b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1178-5 00:12:36.972 --> 00:12:40.172 and and there was a whole I couldn't really know, like big b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1178-6 00:12:40.172 --> 00:12:43.752 ones and little ones. So I guess it was a whole family and I used b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1178-7 00:12:43.752 --> 00:12:47.007 to play there for a long, you know, for ages. Couldn't tell b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1178-8 00:12:47.007 --> 00:12:49.122 her. Like we said, no concept of time. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1184-0 00:12:50.042 --> 00:12:51.282 Ah, those days. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1188-0 00:12:53.202 --> 00:12:54.692 So complicated now. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1231-0 00:12:54.982 --> 00:12:58.907 It is, yeah, I mean, I mean that whole element of time, time is a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1231-1 00:12:58.907 --> 00:13:02.772 theme and how it, how it changes over a lifetime I think is is a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1231-2 00:13:02.772 --> 00:13:06.577 really interesting thing to draw out in a poem that's rooted in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1231-3 00:13:06.577 --> 00:13:07.172 childhood. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1241-0 00:13:10.412 --> 00:13:12.822 Maria, would you like to read out yours next? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1284-0 00:13:14.062 --> 00:13:19.011 Mine is more or less in like you said, you know scattered about b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1284-1 00:13:19.011 --> 00:13:23.805 words and things that just come to mind. So I had to. I had a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1274-0 00:13:21.392 --> 00:13:24.172 That's OK that's that's fine. Ask you to. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1284-2 00:13:23.805 --> 00:13:27.672 thing and this is what I wrote and a St. no cars. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1289-0 00:13:28.392 --> 00:13:29.602 It's a hot summer. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1306-0 00:13:30.262 --> 00:13:34.839 All these kids friends play in running up and down, skidding on b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1306-1 00:13:34.839 --> 00:13:37.342 gravel and scraping and crunching. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1308-0 00:13:38.792 --> 00:13:39.472 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1356-0 00:13:41.382 --> 00:13:46.105 Ramdas 2 teams laughing, fighting only one backed the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1356-1 00:13:46.105 --> 00:13:51.440 smell of hot tar sticking to our shoes. A black, smoky smell b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1356-2 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:56.863 swift like fighter planes, diver test and they scream as they b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1356-3 00:13:56.863 --> 00:13:58.612 skim low. That's it. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1373-0 00:13:59.992 --> 00:14:04.114 That was my moment in the in the street for the kids hundreds of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1373-1 00:14:04.114 --> 00:14:05.002 years ago now. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1413-0 00:14:07.482 --> 00:14:11.867 Right, we're we're probably still all of her generation that b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1413-1 00:14:11.867 --> 00:14:16.252 played on the streets, just about actually. Hello, John. Joe b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1387-0 00:14:12.342 --> 00:14:12.972 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1393-0 00:14:14.312 --> 00:14:15.022 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1413-2 00:14:16.252 --> 00:14:20.925 Griffiths, by the way, welcome. Glad you could make it. Yeah. We b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1402-0 00:14:17.442 --> 00:14:18.042 Ohh hello. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1413-3 00:14:20.925 --> 00:14:23.872 just did a little exercise on recalling. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1430-0 00:14:25.202 --> 00:14:29.568 Such sweet details from her childhood place, and it'll all b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1430-1 00:14:29.568 --> 00:14:31.862 be on the recording anyway and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1439-0 00:14:33.602 --> 00:14:35.752 Yeah. So I love. I love of the very active. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1463-0 00:14:37.072 --> 00:14:41.214 Verbs that you use there and you know creating that sense of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1463-1 00:14:41.214 --> 00:14:44.881 children always on the go and and that energy and the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1462-0 00:14:44.802 --> 00:14:45.252 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1463-2 00:14:44.881 --> 00:14:45.492 detailed. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1490-0 00:14:46.552 --> 00:14:50.209 One of the tarmac and the switch light fighter planes, which is b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1472-0 00:14:49.462 --> 00:14:50.092 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1490-1 00:14:50.209 --> 00:14:53.866 what they are come back to in a minute because I want to talk a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1490-2 00:14:53.866 --> 00:14:55.352 little bit about metaphor. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1493-0 00:14:56.002 --> 00:14:57.332 Ah, OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1495-0 00:14:59.032 --> 00:14:59.432 No. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1499-0 00:15:00.232 --> 00:15:01.342 Lots of metaphors. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1513-0 00:15:03.872 --> 00:15:08.212 Anyone else just any sort of immediate reaction to business? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1522-0 00:15:08.992 --> 00:15:12.072 Yeah, it is very evocative of, you know. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1536-0 00:15:12.782 --> 00:15:17.122 Like channels as well, that kind of that freedom, everybody. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1535-0 00:15:16.462 --> 00:15:17.202 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1586-0 00:15:20.652 --> 00:15:24.312 I think the details, the things that you notice as a child, like b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1586-1 00:15:24.312 --> 00:15:27.915 the the scrunching of your feet and the roads. I remember every b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1586-2 00:15:27.915 --> 00:15:31.350 year, every summer there was those sort of bitumen that went b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1586-3 00:15:31.350 --> 00:15:34.841 across the roads and it melted and we you know you'd stand in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1586-4 00:15:34.841 --> 00:15:37.262 it and fiddle with it and the smell of it. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1587-0 00:15:37.692 --> 00:15:38.522 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1612-0 00:15:38.992 --> 00:15:41.633 And as an adult, I suppose I don't know, maybe it's one of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1612-1 00:15:41.633 --> 00:15:44.453 the things I miss now. I live in the country. I don't. I don't b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1612-2 00:15:44.453 --> 00:15:46.422 get to see the roads melt like you used to. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1647-0 00:15:47.602 --> 00:15:51.347 But you're just not as in touch with those details, are you? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1647-1 00:15:51.347 --> 00:15:54.908 You're you're doing your thing in your head and you don't b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1647-2 00:15:54.908 --> 00:15:58.469 really inhabit the world is immediately. I think a lot of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1652-0 00:15:58.282 --> 00:16:00.122 No, that's true. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1647-3 00:15:58.469 --> 00:15:59.022 the time. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1651-0 00:15:59.602 --> 00:15:59.892 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1675-0 00:16:00.932 --> 00:16:04.814 That is true. You know, talking about when I was like, you see, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1675-1 00:16:04.814 --> 00:16:07.362 all the heat and you see all the the the. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1672-0 00:16:06.132 --> 00:16:06.362 Yep. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1734-0 00:16:07.642 --> 00:16:11.629 And all that sort of heat. You see the heat waves when you're b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1734-1 00:16:11.629 --> 00:16:15.615 coming off the and I would lie on the floor to watch. This is b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1691-0 00:16:12.822 --> 00:16:13.182 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1699-0 00:16:15.292 --> 00:16:15.692 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1734-2 00:16:15.615 --> 00:16:19.859 CBI and I'll everything would be WAVY behind those heat waves. It b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1734-3 00:16:19.859 --> 00:16:23.588 was quite, you know, it was quite magical then, you know, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1715-0 00:16:20.302 --> 00:16:20.642 Hey. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1721-0 00:16:21.542 --> 00:16:22.112 Yeah. And you? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1734-4 00:16:23.588 --> 00:16:26.932 when you think about it. That was magic, wasn't it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1744-0 00:16:28.352 --> 00:16:29.752 And no, I don't do that anymore. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1741-0 00:16:28.562 --> 00:16:28.972 And it's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1788-0 00:16:31.382 --> 00:16:34.918 Elizabeth, you could say by going back to that that kind of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1788-1 00:16:34.918 --> 00:16:38.512 sensory relationship to things, the concrete details, I mean b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1788-2 00:16:38.512 --> 00:16:42.284 that sense of connection is is what we actually want to try and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1788-3 00:16:42.284 --> 00:16:45.702 achieve through poetry and to rearrange and that sort of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1797-0 00:16:46.832 --> 00:16:51.312 Tension to to what is what we're experiencing. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1802-0 00:16:54.332 --> 00:16:55.162 Joe. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1804-0 00:16:55.262 --> 00:16:55.542 Uh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1817-0 00:16:55.552 --> 00:17:00.187 Run it. Yeah, I did. My grandparents spare bedroom, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1809-0 00:16:56.342 --> 00:16:57.142 It seems. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1817-1 00:17:00.187 --> 00:17:01.702 which it stay in. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1825-0 00:17:02.502 --> 00:17:05.922 Fairly regularly as as a kids and early teens. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1838-0 00:17:06.572 --> 00:17:10.715 So I'd like spring green wallpaper which is new with b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1838-1 00:17:10.715 --> 00:17:12.122 matching curtains. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1848-0 00:17:12.852 --> 00:17:14.742 And the thin tan carpet. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1862-0 00:17:15.922 --> 00:17:18.822 Slightly musty smell of a seldom used bed. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1875-0 00:17:19.892 --> 00:17:23.662 And the smell of rubber of the hot water bottle to air the bed. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1906-0 00:17:26.032 --> 00:17:30.717 Destroyed sweeper wrappers chewed by mice, which I won't b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1906-1 00:17:30.717 --> 00:17:35.650 hidden my sweets in the space under the bottom drawer, away b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1906-2 00:17:35.650 --> 00:17:39.842 from my sister fluency, little Andy Mum's instead. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1918-0 00:17:41.362 --> 00:17:43.517 I mean, I can remember Grandfather saying don't b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1918-1 00:17:43.517 --> 00:17:45.492 telegram because she was terrified of mice. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1931-0 00:17:46.922 --> 00:17:49.802 So you don't you don't need to leave the streets there again. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1948-0 00:17:51.692 --> 00:17:54.776 And the Creek on the landing of my grandfather pacing back and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1948-1 00:17:54.776 --> 00:17:56.342 forth, waiting for us to get up. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1966-0 00:17:57.182 --> 00:18:00.146 They're so you wouldn't come in and get us up. We just like pace b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/1966-1 00:18:00.146 --> 00:18:01.742 back and forth would be like that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2000-0 00:18:02.452 --> 00:18:06.330 Who's walking back and forth? Said the door. My grandfather, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2000-1 00:18:06.330 --> 00:18:10.081 itching what? We could have a have an argument with it. So b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2000-2 00:18:10.081 --> 00:18:13.832 waiting to self or you know somethings were entertain him. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2003-0 00:18:14.712 --> 00:18:15.772 So and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2016-0 00:18:16.832 --> 00:18:20.551 The smell of fresh batch, bread toasting and fried bacon and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2016-1 00:18:20.551 --> 00:18:21.222 lava bread. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2035-0 00:18:22.092 --> 00:18:25.586 And laughing at my ground, I can remember window because we're my b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2035-1 00:18:25.586 --> 00:18:28.392 grandfather used to wind this up and and talk about. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2074-0 00:18:30.992 --> 00:18:34.896 There's like black students next door there because of all the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2074-1 00:18:34.896 --> 00:18:38.677 racist slurs. Go away. And of course that would start me off b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2074-2 00:18:38.677 --> 00:18:41.899 arguing with him and my grandchildren. Wonder went. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2074-3 00:18:41.899 --> 00:18:44.812 George, they need nourishment, not punishment. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2083-0 00:18:47.102 --> 00:18:49.762 Which I cracked up. Yeah, we are not gonna, Straub. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2118-0 00:18:51.902 --> 00:18:55.911 I thought we thought that just one line that my grand came out b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2118-1 00:18:55.911 --> 00:18:59.538 with at that time it just carried on for years. You know b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2118-2 00:18:59.538 --> 00:19:03.292 the, the, the whole thing about my grand feeding us up and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2118-3 00:19:03.292 --> 00:19:03.992 nourishing. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2136-0 00:19:05.542 --> 00:19:10.152 Nourishing is as people as well. What just with the food. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2131-0 00:19:08.222 --> 00:19:08.802 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2147-0 00:19:11.702 --> 00:19:14.442 My grandfather, always being the one to kind of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2171-0 00:19:15.792 --> 00:19:19.140 Constantly digging to get a reaction. It was it that was b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2171-1 00:19:19.140 --> 00:19:22.782 kind of his thing and he'd make you make all the cousins cry. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2187-0 00:19:23.612 --> 00:19:26.646 And I'd be the one who to argue with him, and he left that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2187-1 00:19:26.646 --> 00:19:28.112 Yeah, he loved the fact that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2198-0 00:19:27.312 --> 00:19:30.525 That's that's a generation as well, isn't it? My father would b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2198-1 00:19:30.525 --> 00:19:31.562 do things like that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2216-0 00:19:31.982 --> 00:19:36.009 Oh my God. The things you used to come out with, which was so b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2216-1 00:19:36.009 --> 00:19:38.412 inappropriate. And I I'd be kicking. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2237-0 00:19:40.002 --> 00:19:43.113 Tell them that's awful. You can't say that, and everything b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2237-1 00:19:43.113 --> 00:19:45.012 else will be like ohh grandpa jobs. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2251-0 00:19:48.152 --> 00:19:50.502 So yeah, that was kind of things. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2277-0 00:19:49.502 --> 00:19:53.103 They there was no peace. C Then, was they. That's just the way b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2277-1 00:19:53.103 --> 00:19:56.817 everyone spoke more or less, and it was a conversation like, you b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2277-2 00:19:56.817 --> 00:19:58.532 know, you would say, you know. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2282-0 00:19:58.252 --> 00:20:00.412 Ohh, I'd think he knew what he was doing. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2293-0 00:20:00.602 --> 00:20:03.062 Oh, absolutely. You know, I I'm guessing. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2311-0 00:20:01.612 --> 00:20:04.797 You said, Quentin, really like this? This is the way to kind of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2311-1 00:20:04.797 --> 00:20:07.933 have conversation with Joanne because everyone else just bores b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2311-2 00:20:07.933 --> 00:20:08.082 me. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2314-0 00:20:08.972 --> 00:20:09.522 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2316-0 00:20:09.262 --> 00:20:11.012 So yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2346-0 00:20:19.602 --> 00:20:19.892 It's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2349-0 00:20:19.962 --> 00:20:21.212 To get the reaction. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2351-0 00:20:22.532 --> 00:20:23.092 Brilliant. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2354-0 00:20:23.482 --> 00:20:24.282 That's very interest. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2364-0 00:20:25.352 --> 00:20:27.802 I love the way you set up place. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2359-0 00:20:25.462 --> 00:20:26.032 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2370-0 00:20:29.492 --> 00:20:31.022 Relaxed atmosphere for. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2373-0 00:20:32.342 --> 00:20:33.012 First space. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2375-0 00:20:35.512 --> 00:20:35.722 But. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2387-0 00:20:37.032 --> 00:20:39.630 Then you kind of get drawn out of that, and that triggers b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2387-1 00:20:39.630 --> 00:20:40.302 memories of of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2395-0 00:20:41.092 --> 00:20:42.582 This was more sort of wholesome. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2397-0 00:20:43.932 --> 00:20:44.412 Making. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2404-0 00:20:46.282 --> 00:20:48.272 But that then draws you in again into. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2420-0 00:20:49.302 --> 00:20:53.276 Into people and and the dynamics and the narrative of the family. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2420-1 00:20:53.276 --> 00:20:54.902 So there's a whole sort of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2422-0 00:20:56.222 --> 00:20:56.612 AM. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2436-0 00:20:57.522 --> 00:21:00.660 Bread that you can kind of unpack just from going back to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2436-1 00:21:00.660 --> 00:21:03.312 that place, which I think it's very interesting. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2445-0 00:21:04.972 --> 00:21:07.232 I also just remembered as well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2441-0 00:21:05.312 --> 00:21:05.622 Of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2449-0 00:21:07.922 --> 00:21:08.332 Hmm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2453-0 00:21:08.082 --> 00:21:09.822 Which is probably slightly inappropriate. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2485-0 00:21:10.712 --> 00:21:13.829 Being 12 years old and when the older girls in school lending b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2485-1 00:21:13.829 --> 00:21:16.946 view Harold Robbins book and reading that that my grand under b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2485-2 00:21:16.946 --> 00:21:18.102 the cover to the torch. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2505-0 00:21:20.352 --> 00:21:23.785 Which is like I say, I don't know if I if ever there was a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2505-1 00:21:23.785 --> 00:21:26.462 Harold drop. It is quite full on ***********. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2509-0 00:21:26.822 --> 00:21:28.212 Yes, I've. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2514-0 00:21:29.142 --> 00:21:30.172 Yeah, right. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2513-0 00:21:30.012 --> 00:21:30.482 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2520-0 00:21:31.842 --> 00:21:32.962 I think probably all got your. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2550-0 00:21:35.542 --> 00:21:38.969 You know, they're just looking at the gutters 12 when the Red b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2550-1 00:21:38.969 --> 00:21:40.572 Harold Robbins. That's awful. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2549-0 00:21:43.092 --> 00:21:45.082 My dad has this this whole book. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2553-0 00:21:46.672 --> 00:21:47.042 It was an. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2605-0 00:21:47.722 --> 00:21:52.828 I'm not book it was. It was about life. Drawing had lots of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2605-1 00:21:52.828 --> 00:21:55.892 photographs of buds, 30s, nineteen. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2614-0 00:21:55.102 --> 00:21:55.422 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2612-0 00:21:58.252 --> 00:21:59.492 Take off at that and sort of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2634-0 00:22:00.842 --> 00:22:03.883 Period it in dark places. I think a lot of children do, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2634-1 00:22:03.883 --> 00:22:04.372 actually. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2639-0 00:22:06.352 --> 00:22:07.352 Again, that's the kind of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2646-0 00:22:08.282 --> 00:22:12.542 Interesting narrative that evolved from particular spaces. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2662-0 00:22:15.872 --> 00:22:18.120 Especially when you got your grandfather pacing back and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2662-1 00:22:18.120 --> 00:22:20.132 forth outside, it's like, Oh my God, correct type. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2690-0 00:22:22.792 --> 00:22:25.854 And I forgot how the thought about that for years, until b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2690-1 00:22:25.854 --> 00:22:29.238 right at the very end of to do it ohg my God. Yeah, the Harold b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2690-2 00:22:29.238 --> 00:22:31.602 Robbins. But the Stephanie gave me to read. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2570-0 00:22:32.972 --> 00:22:35.702 Yes, there's always one. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2699-0 00:22:37.242 --> 00:22:40.572 That other, JoJo Griffiths. Hi. Did you want to? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2555-0 00:22:39.942 --> 00:22:40.292 I. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2705-0 00:22:41.562 --> 00:22:43.702 To it in at all this conversation. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2602-0 00:22:45.872 --> 00:22:48.857 Not the moment. Now, I'm still waiting to have to admit I'm b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2710-0 00:22:47.382 --> 00:22:48.172 Are you OK? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2602-1 00:22:48.857 --> 00:22:51.792 still waking up. I've slept through my alarm this morning. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2717-0 00:22:52.412 --> 00:22:54.502 No worries. Yeah, we'll just get your own place. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2630-0 00:22:55.482 --> 00:22:57.732 But I'm here now. Bits of me are anyway. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2735-0 00:22:59.262 --> 00:23:02.493 But but I think that what that says proves I mean, I mean we b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2735-1 00:23:02.493 --> 00:23:05.672 started off by investigating using specific details and it. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2741-0 00:23:07.182 --> 00:23:08.982 I think like kind of shows that when you when you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2749-0 00:23:10.232 --> 00:23:13.022 You make that kind of a journey back into memories and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2771-0 00:23:14.022 --> 00:23:19.422 How many other narratives and scenarios can unravel from it b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2771-1 00:23:19.422 --> 00:23:25.182 and potential themes as well? So as a way of place as a trigger b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2771-2 00:23:25.182 --> 00:23:25.542 for? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2798-0 00:23:28.922 --> 00:23:32.562 A wider piece of work, though, piece of work but you're but b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2798-1 00:23:32.562 --> 00:23:35.596 you're rooted in that perspective. Those specific b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2798-2 00:23:35.596 --> 00:23:39.419 moments, and that's where you want to take the reader to begin b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2798-3 00:23:39.419 --> 00:23:39.722 with. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2809-0 00:23:41.302 --> 00:23:45.552 Of course, with poetry in particular, we're not just. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2818-0 00:23:46.822 --> 00:23:50.762 Looking at giving observations and and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2840-0 00:23:51.472 --> 00:23:54.958 She like concrete description where we take we go a step b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2840-1 00:23:54.958 --> 00:23:58.322 beyond that to using figurative language and metaphor. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2842-0 00:23:59.512 --> 00:23:59.992 Which? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2876-0 00:24:00.632 --> 00:24:04.480 I mean, just put very simply, metaphors talking about one b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2876-1 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:08.395 thing in terms of another and and by doing that you add on b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2876-2 00:24:08.395 --> 00:24:12.642 layers of meaning or or layers of the ways that the reader can. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2878-0 00:24:14.332 --> 00:24:15.032 Take that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2891-0 00:24:16.052 --> 00:24:20.243 Initiative deal detailed a bit further and find other themes b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2891-1 00:24:20.243 --> 00:24:21.892 and possibilities in it. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2913-0 00:24:23.202 --> 00:24:28.061 So what I'd like you to do now, and you've already done this a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2913-1 00:24:28.061 --> 00:24:33.075 bit. Maria, is to pick up one or two details from the pieces you b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2913-2 00:24:33.075 --> 00:24:34.772 were just listing and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2952-0 00:24:36.502 --> 00:24:40.052 See if you can convert them into metaphors. So you were saying b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2952-1 00:24:40.052 --> 00:24:43.602 swift were like fighter planes, which which was lovely because b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2952-2 00:24:43.602 --> 00:24:47.040 it kind of fitted the all the scrapping round and the energy b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2952-3 00:24:47.040 --> 00:24:49.632 and the fights going on amongst the children. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2954-0 00:24:50.362 --> 00:24:50.722 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2957-0 00:24:50.392 --> 00:24:52.582 Umm so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2969-0 00:24:53.492 --> 00:24:56.360 Find something else in your piece and describe it as b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2969-1 00:24:56.360 --> 00:24:57.172 something else. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2990-0 00:24:58.362 --> 00:25:02.348 Describe to something something else SO22 details into metaphors b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2978-0 00:24:58.752 --> 00:24:59.282 So. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2990-1 00:25:02.348 --> 00:25:03.452 you said was that? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2993-0 00:25:03.872 --> 00:25:04.692 Yeah, yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/2995-0 00:25:05.562 --> 00:25:06.002 Defeated. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3002-0 00:25:05.922 --> 00:25:08.562 And change them into something else. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3003-0 00:25:08.462 --> 00:25:08.902 So. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3015-0 00:25:08.982 --> 00:25:13.600 Umm, yes. So, because we're just gonna be example from your b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3015-1 00:25:13.600 --> 00:25:14.062 piece. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3024-0 00:25:15.692 --> 00:25:17.982 OK, if you were an example, I'll be with me. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3034-0 00:25:18.432 --> 00:25:22.712 And an example. Did you want the swift 1 black? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3043-0 00:25:22.792 --> 00:25:26.462 And I don't know swift like fighter planes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3052-0 00:25:27.082 --> 00:25:31.632 Umm, skidding on gravel scrape pen was no. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3055-0 00:25:32.832 --> 00:25:34.042 Street cars. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3066-0 00:25:35.792 --> 00:25:38.662 Running epidemics get in like the planes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3083-0 00:25:40.612 --> 00:25:44.488 And they scream as they know something like fighter planes. I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3083-1 00:25:44.488 --> 00:25:47.052 don't think I used anything else, did I? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3090-0 00:25:47.872 --> 00:25:49.372 So if you could find another one. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3096-0 00:25:50.442 --> 00:25:51.552 Find another one. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3102-0 00:25:52.782 --> 00:25:54.732 The wrong Claire, Taiwan. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3104-0 00:25:55.852 --> 00:25:56.262 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3117-0 00:25:56.202 --> 00:25:59.052 OK, I'll give you just a couple of minutes for that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3119-0 00:26:03.402 --> 00:26:04.042 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3175-0 00:28:09.332 --> 00:28:12.002 OK. Has everyone come up with something? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3177-0 00:28:12.822 --> 00:28:13.142 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3179-0 00:28:13.522 --> 00:28:13.802 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3181-0 00:28:15.412 --> 00:28:15.902 Lovely. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3190-0 00:28:18.822 --> 00:28:20.312 Think I found one other. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3195-0 00:28:20.722 --> 00:28:23.552 Alright. Do you want to kick off that Maria? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3200-0 00:28:24.612 --> 00:28:26.282 Umm well I used. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3214-0 00:28:27.122 --> 00:28:31.172 The hot tar, sticky and smelly like melted black treacle. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3231-0 00:28:31.902 --> 00:28:35.994 Nice. Yeah. Lovely. And I like that. And. And I don't know, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3231-1 00:28:35.994 --> 00:28:37.972 black treacle is, is kind of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3253-0 00:28:40.792 --> 00:28:44.502 It's it's right with period, I think treacle puddings and black b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3253-1 00:28:44.502 --> 00:28:48.212 treacle being used in baking all the time. It's kind of course. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3258-0 00:28:48.952 --> 00:28:50.112 That's great. Thank you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3260-0 00:28:50.882 --> 00:28:51.402 Thank you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3263-0 00:28:54.102 --> 00:28:54.492 Claire. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3268-0 00:28:57.942 --> 00:28:59.272 Yes, I I've. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3312-0 00:29:00.542 --> 00:29:04.592 It's surprisingly difficult when you're actually trying to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3312-1 00:29:04.592 --> 00:29:08.573 manufacture them. I think they either come to you or they b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3312-2 00:29:08.573 --> 00:29:12.829 don't, so I've sort of extended the the idea of the overgrown b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3312-3 00:29:12.829 --> 00:29:16.468 lilac bushes and just the overgrown lilac bushes. My b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3312-4 00:29:16.468 --> 00:29:17.772 guards and minders. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3318-0 00:29:18.642 --> 00:29:19.902 Because that's it. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3323-0 00:29:18.802 --> 00:29:22.556 Nice. Yeah. Yeah. No, I like that. That's interesting b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3323-1 00:29:22.556 --> 00:29:23.112 because. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3326-0 00:29:23.712 --> 00:29:24.112 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3334-0 00:29:24.052 --> 00:29:27.462 I mean that opens up the whole psychological dimension. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3344-0 00:29:29.482 --> 00:29:32.052 Said. Suffering stated that that's great. Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3339-0 00:29:29.922 --> 00:29:30.342 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3364-0 00:29:33.352 --> 00:29:36.855 Alright, I have put you on the spot a bit and and often better b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3364-1 00:29:36.855 --> 00:29:39.857 for us come more, more organically, don't they in the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3364-2 00:29:39.857 --> 00:29:40.302 process. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3369-0 00:29:41.662 --> 00:29:44.022 Hey Joe, Joe toft. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3382-0 00:29:44.492 --> 00:29:49.632 OK, I've got the destroyed sweep wrappers like confetti, a secret b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3382-1 00:29:49.632 --> 00:29:50.722 mouse wedding. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3387-0 00:29:51.892 --> 00:29:52.152 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3385-0 00:29:52.362 --> 00:29:52.702 No. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3397-0 00:29:54.462 --> 00:29:58.202 Creek on the landing, a ship Steck moving on an early tide. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3399-0 00:29:59.112 --> 00:30:00.212 Lovely. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3401-0 00:30:02.092 --> 00:30:02.592 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3406-0 00:30:03.942 --> 00:30:05.462 I really like that and and and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3417-0 00:30:06.332 --> 00:30:09.871 Because mediately when you when you add an in metaphor, then it b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3417-1 00:30:09.871 --> 00:30:10.922 opens up the world. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3433-0 00:30:11.942 --> 00:30:16.529 Of that detail, doesn't it? And it brings in other places and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3420-0 00:30:12.022 --> 00:30:12.372 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3433-1 00:30:16.529 --> 00:30:18.452 feelings and emotions and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3437-0 00:30:20.952 --> 00:30:21.332 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3439-0 00:30:21.422 --> 00:30:21.732 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3454-0 00:30:23.282 --> 00:30:26.891 I was thinking about that like the heavy old blankets on the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3454-1 00:30:26.891 --> 00:30:28.252 bed was very cave like. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3476-0 00:30:29.342 --> 00:30:32.336 Especially means like smells like the old rubber hot water b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3476-1 00:30:32.336 --> 00:30:35.482 bottle. So I thought we could do something with that as well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3478-0 00:30:36.112 --> 00:30:36.622 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3480-0 00:30:37.892 --> 00:30:38.162 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3482-0 00:30:39.262 --> 00:30:39.492 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3499-0 00:30:41.522 --> 00:30:45.365 It's a story in the in the sweet competitive for the most wedding b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3499-1 00:30:45.365 --> 00:30:46.472 you know, isn't it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3498-0 00:30:46.272 --> 00:30:46.632 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3506-0 00:30:47.912 --> 00:30:50.652 Yeah, there is once you find. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3513-0 00:30:51.602 --> 00:30:53.942 A metaphor that feels appt. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3519-0 00:30:56.742 --> 00:30:57.542 Come up fairly soon. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3560-0 00:30:58.752 --> 00:31:02.525 Umm. Then you. Then you can run with it, because there's a. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3560-1 00:31:02.525 --> 00:31:06.109 There's a story in that metaphor, and then you can run a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3560-2 00:31:06.109 --> 00:31:09.944 run with it again, and the whole poem might just evolve from b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3560-3 00:31:09.944 --> 00:31:11.642 that. And think about well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3573-0 00:31:13.782 --> 00:31:16.422 Where is this taking in terms of meaning themes? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3595-0 00:31:14.512 --> 00:31:17.581 Questions for the whole most rewarding thing, and obviously b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3595-1 00:31:17.581 --> 00:31:20.957 they literally breeding and then they could kind of come round to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3595-2 00:31:20.957 --> 00:31:22.082 the Harold Robbins so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3598-0 00:31:25.002 --> 00:31:25.512 Ohh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3621-0 00:31:26.592 --> 00:31:31.720 But not have you this. I think that it's no, I I mean it. Yeah, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3621-1 00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:33.322 it's funny but also. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3656-0 00:31:35.502 --> 00:31:38.985 By talking through metaphors and scenarios in in poems, I mean, I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3656-1 00:31:38.985 --> 00:31:42.045 mean it kind of gives you permission to talk about topics b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3656-2 00:31:42.045 --> 00:31:44.947 that you might feel awkward about, but they're part of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3656-3 00:31:44.947 --> 00:31:47.322 experience and part of childhood experience. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3667-0 00:31:48.212 --> 00:31:51.392 And so don't be shy of going there, I just said. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3659-0 00:31:48.232 --> 00:31:48.692 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3705-0 00:31:54.832 --> 00:31:58.215 Brilliant. Alright, well done everyone. So. So that's two b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3705-1 00:31:58.215 --> 00:32:01.715 important basic elements of creating place in poetry. We'll b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3705-2 00:32:01.715 --> 00:32:05.040 look at some examples in a minute. It's concrete detail, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3693-0 00:32:03.642 --> 00:32:03.872 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3705-3 00:32:05.040 --> 00:32:07.432 use of figurative language and metaphor. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3714-0 00:32:09.192 --> 00:32:11.172 The other thing I want to do is that poems. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3738-0 00:32:11.822 --> 00:32:16.020 What to be about something so more than just a list of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3738-1 00:32:16.020 --> 00:32:19.912 impressions or an anecdote for anecdote, say sake. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3775-0 00:32:21.252 --> 00:32:25.071 They want, if you like, a kind of micro plot, it doesn't have b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3775-1 00:32:25.071 --> 00:32:28.767 to be as involved as a plot in, in a story or narrative, or b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3775-2 00:32:28.767 --> 00:32:32.524 obviously a narrative. Poetry. It would be. It could be like b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3775-3 00:32:32.524 --> 00:32:32.832 just. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3808-0 00:32:32.992 --> 00:32:36.949 And some kind of tension or friction that's in there. In b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3808-1 00:32:36.949 --> 00:32:41.322 fact, I'm going to read you what I put in. I don't know if you b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3808-2 00:32:41.322 --> 00:32:45.140 read it. Document basic approaches or, but she need to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3808-3 00:32:45.140 --> 00:32:47.292 share it. Sorry. Let's go back. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3811-0 00:32:49.332 --> 00:32:50.112 It's not. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3815-0 00:32:54.942 --> 00:32:55.982 You sucking? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3823-0 00:33:00.412 --> 00:33:02.962 Everyone should everyone see what's on screen. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3834-0 00:33:04.602 --> 00:33:06.572 Yeah, it's quite small. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3832-0 00:33:05.612 --> 00:33:06.402 Good, good. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3838-0 00:33:07.162 --> 00:33:08.232 A come back quicker. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3843-0 00:33:14.212 --> 00:33:16.662 It's going to move it up. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3847-0 00:33:19.452 --> 00:33:20.142 So it's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3889-0 00:33:21.272 --> 00:33:25.332 Like in here in the list, poems need structure. They need to be b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3889-1 00:33:25.332 --> 00:33:28.694 more than just a string of impressions. The poems we b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3889-2 00:33:28.694 --> 00:33:32.309 remember about something they session, internal friction b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3889-3 00:33:32.309 --> 00:33:36.052 develop an idea through imagery that's organically linked. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3922-0 00:33:36.832 --> 00:33:40.911 Many poems like friction and bed change or shift or progression b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3922-1 00:33:40.911 --> 00:33:45.054 in the line of thought. This is something that we and we find it b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3922-2 00:33:45.054 --> 00:33:47.922 a change within a pound. We call it a Volta. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3968-0 00:33:49.372 --> 00:33:53.254 It's very common device, so when writing about place in a poem, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3968-1 00:33:53.254 --> 00:33:56.893 you need to go further and just describing it to expressing b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3968-2 00:33:56.893 --> 00:34:00.836 emotion. What is it you want to say about that place? What's the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3968-3 00:34:00.836 --> 00:34:03.990 story? Does it feel like a resonant example of or a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/3968-4 00:34:03.990 --> 00:34:06.052 metaphor for a wider human theme? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4021-0 00:34:06.942 --> 00:34:10.791 If you write a poem and strict form, such as the sonnet blah b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4021-1 00:34:10.791 --> 00:34:14.639 blah, these tend to have ready made structural and narrative b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4021-2 00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:18.298 expectation. So sonnets for example, to have a three-part b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4021-3 00:34:18.298 --> 00:34:22.462 structure framed around argument counter argument and resolution. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4021-4 00:34:22.462 --> 00:34:26.185 So if you like writing in form then it's worth researching b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4021-5 00:34:26.185 --> 00:34:26.942 researching. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4031-0 00:34:28.282 --> 00:34:31.012 What they're expectations are for that form and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4033-0 00:34:31.922 --> 00:34:32.452 I'm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4038-0 00:34:34.622 --> 00:34:35.702 Well, they actually. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4083-0 00:34:36.572 --> 00:34:40.963 And better kind of plot and the rhyme pattern can support this b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4083-1 00:34:40.963 --> 00:34:45.285 structure in free verse forms. There are many ways to provide b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4083-2 00:34:45.285 --> 00:34:49.119 structure list poems that gradually build a narrative. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4083-3 00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:53.022 Poems built around contrast then and now dream reality. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4124-0 00:34:53.812 --> 00:34:57.083 I'm premise and I've only counter premise this, but also b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4124-1 00:34:57.083 --> 00:35:00.296 this that you know there are lots and lots of examples. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4124-2 00:35:00.296 --> 00:35:03.567 Sometimes they have some kind of shape and they're about b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4124-3 00:35:03.567 --> 00:35:07.125 something. The ending they've travelled from the beginning to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4124-4 00:35:07.125 --> 00:35:08.732 the end in a particular way. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4126-0 00:35:09.942 --> 00:35:10.502 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4128-0 00:35:13.522 --> 00:35:13.892 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4130-0 00:35:15.882 --> 00:35:16.412 2. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4133-0 00:35:17.392 --> 00:35:18.332 Screen. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4185-0 00:35:19.582 --> 00:35:23.797 And then I think the other really, really important element b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4185-1 00:35:23.797 --> 00:35:27.872 of poetry is it's musicality. The fact that it uses sound b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4185-2 00:35:27.872 --> 00:35:32.158 effects and what we call word play. I mean, everyone's heard b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4185-3 00:35:32.158 --> 00:35:36.374 of alliteration even, know what that is. So I'm sure he you b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4185-4 00:35:36.374 --> 00:35:40.941 repeat the 1st letter of a word through a sequence of words in a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4185-5 00:35:40.941 --> 00:35:41.292 line. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4206-0 00:35:42.942 --> 00:35:47.529 You could have rhyme, half rhyme, assonance where repeating b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4206-1 00:35:47.529 --> 00:35:52.117 vowel sounds, consonants where beating particular consonant b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4206-2 00:35:52.117 --> 00:35:52.652 sounds. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4237-0 00:35:53.752 --> 00:35:58.874 They might want to play with soft sound sibilants as they're b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4237-1 00:35:58.874 --> 00:36:04.079 called esses and or hard sounds like cause and does, and more b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4237-2 00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:07.522 brittle, sort of consonantal sounds and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4262-0 00:36:08.452 --> 00:36:12.658 And kind of patterning that you can achieve with that. And I'm b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4262-1 00:36:12.658 --> 00:36:16.731 sure you've all heard of the horrible word and a matter pier b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4262-2 00:36:16.731 --> 00:36:19.602 which is. Can anyone tell me what that is? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4267-0 00:36:21.912 --> 00:36:23.412 Isn't that where? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4288-0 00:36:25.252 --> 00:36:29.629 It sounds like the object is describing. Is that what that is b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4285-0 00:36:28.672 --> 00:36:29.112 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4288-1 00:36:29.629 --> 00:36:29.982 here? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4325-0 00:36:30.242 --> 00:36:35.562 Yeah, it did not show yes. So. So I want to look at how I'm now b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4325-1 00:36:35.562 --> 00:36:40.882 again on the PowerPoint. You go back into share that I think is b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4325-2 00:36:40.882 --> 00:36:46.119 a really good example of using soundplay to amplify and create b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4325-3 00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:47.532 a sense of place. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4330-0 00:36:53.722 --> 00:36:54.542 I haven't. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4335-0 00:37:02.212 --> 00:37:03.372 Lights in my eyes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4338-0 00:37:04.472 --> 00:37:05.112 Is it gone? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4348-0 00:37:16.012 --> 00:37:19.182 OK, I'm just need to open the PowerPoint again. I'm sorry. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4352-0 00:37:20.482 --> 00:37:21.932 Accidentally released it. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4363-0 00:37:50.782 --> 00:37:51.182 Here we are. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4370-0 00:37:52.122 --> 00:37:54.052 Well, just for that, just ignore. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4382-0 00:37:56.102 --> 00:37:59.612 So it's this poem on this island. Can everyone see it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4388-0 00:38:00.832 --> 00:38:02.282 Someone got it on the screen? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4390-0 00:38:04.142 --> 00:38:04.492 Yep. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4392-0 00:38:05.662 --> 00:38:06.202 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4396-0 00:38:07.642 --> 00:38:08.432 This is by. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4410-0 00:38:08.902 --> 00:38:14.312 Ohm part WH Auden, who is most active in. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4415-0 00:38:15.572 --> 00:38:17.622 Middle early 20th century. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4422-0 00:38:19.032 --> 00:38:21.042 And I'll read this out to you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4427-0 00:38:21.712 --> 00:38:22.712 On this island. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4437-0 00:38:23.812 --> 00:38:26.792 Look, stranger on this island now. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4468-0 00:38:27.522 --> 00:38:32.055 The leaping light for your delight to cut discovers stands b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4468-1 00:38:32.055 --> 00:38:36.819 stable here and silent. Beat that through the channels of the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4468-2 00:38:36.819 --> 00:38:41.352 ear may wonder like a river. The swaying sound of the sea. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4534-0 00:38:42.572 --> 00:38:47.600 Here it is small fields ending pause, where the chalk will b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4534-1 00:38:47.600 --> 00:38:52.714 falls to the phone, and it's tall ledges pose the pluck and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4534-2 00:38:52.714 --> 00:38:57.486 knock of the tide, and the shingles scrambles after the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4534-3 00:38:57.486 --> 00:39:02.856 sucking surf and a girl lodges a moment on its sheer side, far b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4534-4 00:39:02.856 --> 00:39:07.458 off like floating seeds, the ships diverge on urgent, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4534-5 00:39:07.458 --> 00:39:08.992 voluntary errands. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4559-0 00:39:09.922 --> 00:39:15.231 And this full of view indeed may enter and move in memory, as now b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4559-1 00:39:15.231 --> 00:39:18.932 these clouds do that pass the harbour mirror. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4574-0 00:39:19.602 --> 00:39:23.712 And all the summer through the Wanter saunter. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4576-0 00:39:26.102 --> 00:39:26.692 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4584-0 00:39:27.562 --> 00:39:29.952 Just take a look at that moment and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4590-0 00:39:32.912 --> 00:39:34.512 Tell me some ways. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4603-0 00:39:35.762 --> 00:39:40.552 In which order has has played with, with sounds and syllables. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4608-0 00:39:41.502 --> 00:39:42.612 But the fact is. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4619-0 00:39:47.132 --> 00:39:48.412 I love that line. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4628-0 00:39:47.432 --> 00:39:50.162 I can see there's lots of alliteration, but. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4649-0 00:39:49.742 --> 00:39:53.780 Ohh script sorry who spoke first then? Yeah. Claire. Claire. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4627-0 00:39:50.022 --> 00:39:50.442 Yeah, yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4636-0 00:39:52.362 --> 00:39:52.762 Sorry. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4637-0 00:39:52.432 --> 00:39:52.792 Why? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4649-1 00:39:53.780 --> 00:39:56.362 Sorry. Do you want to go first? Sorry. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4672-0 00:39:55.532 --> 00:40:00.036 And this this obviously a lots of alliteration and things, but b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4672-1 00:40:00.036 --> 00:40:04.469 I think for me absolutely love opposed the pluck and knock of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4672-2 00:40:04.469 --> 00:40:06.042 the tide because that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4716-0 00:40:08.292 --> 00:40:12.506 It's it's hard to even say why it makes it makes it right. It b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4716-1 00:40:12.506 --> 00:40:16.992 has a sort of push and a pull to it, doesn't it? And you can just b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4716-2 00:40:16.992 --> 00:40:21.275 feel how that's the the water hitting the side of something. I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4716-3 00:40:21.275 --> 00:40:23.382 think that one is is marvelous. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4718-0 00:40:23.752 --> 00:40:24.062 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4729-0 00:40:28.672 --> 00:40:32.480 Definitely an example of the sound picking up on the action, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4729-1 00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:33.042 isn't it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4731-0 00:40:33.432 --> 00:40:33.692 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4752-0 00:40:37.682 --> 00:40:41.299 I quite like you know, the other iteration and and then the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4752-1 00:40:41.299 --> 00:40:44.132 rhyming in the leaping light for your delight. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4754-0 00:40:45.082 --> 00:40:45.612 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4764-0 00:40:46.422 --> 00:40:50.122 It's it's very whimsical, that line is. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4767-0 00:40:51.452 --> 00:40:52.262 That's true. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4778-0 00:40:56.082 --> 00:40:58.607 Yes, it's all. It's quite theatrical realised, isn't it b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4778-1 00:40:58.607 --> 00:40:58.832 like? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4794-0 00:40:59.072 --> 00:41:02.984 Yeah, it's almost like when those kind of fairy poems, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4794-1 00:41:02.984 --> 00:41:04.762 because like, we're gram. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4806-0 00:41:06.472 --> 00:41:10.002 We look at book of like you're like poems for children. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4815-0 00:41:10.992 --> 00:41:13.082 And it feels like something for like that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4817-0 00:41:15.722 --> 00:41:16.182 Suppose. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4824-0 00:41:17.692 --> 00:41:19.552 Crimes and the internal rhyme. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4843-0 00:41:20.342 --> 00:41:22.890 Add to that effect, because that's something quite often b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4843-1 00:41:22.890 --> 00:41:24.992 associate with children's perfectly, isn't it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4844-0 00:41:25.002 --> 00:41:25.452 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4850-0 00:41:30.842 --> 00:41:32.832 Conscious play shingles scramble. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4854-0 00:41:33.762 --> 00:41:34.752 Parking served. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4859-0 00:41:35.702 --> 00:41:36.462 Arrange of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4861-0 00:41:37.142 --> 00:41:37.492 Different. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4866-0 00:41:43.092 --> 00:41:43.802 Any other thoughts? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4923-0 00:41:44.582 --> 00:41:49.245 I was talking to Don about rhyming poems recently, and I'm b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4881-0 00:41:48.942 --> 00:41:49.552 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4923-1 00:41:49.245 --> 00:41:53.828 and I was saying how not for me anyway, when I tend to do b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4923-2 00:41:53.828 --> 00:41:58.728 rhymes, it it always seems like it sounds really childish and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4923-3 00:41:58.728 --> 00:42:03.707 and that's kind of a memory from from childhood as well. But I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/4923-4 00:42:03.707 --> 00:42:05.762 mean, he pointed out that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5006-0 00:42:07.212 --> 00:42:11.394 That rhyming poems, if you're reading them aloud, is a really b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5006-1 00:42:11.394 --> 00:42:15.306 good way of of remembering what's coming next and and how b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5006-2 00:42:15.306 --> 00:42:19.690 to sort of fix it in your mind. And that quite often the rhyming b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5006-3 00:42:19.690 --> 00:42:23.940 poem will stick in the mind of better than than something like b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5006-4 00:42:23.940 --> 00:42:27.987 this, unless you've got a one line perhaps, you know, like, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5006-5 00:42:27.987 --> 00:42:32.236 you know, the the the shingle scrambles from the sucking surf, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5006-6 00:42:32.236 --> 00:42:36.351 you know, something like that that really draws you into the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5006-7 00:42:36.351 --> 00:42:38.442 poem and creates a vivid image. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5016-0 00:42:38.512 --> 00:42:40.822 Need to remember what the poems about. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5029-0 00:42:41.592 --> 00:42:44.562 And that's what I was quite an interesting conversation. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5024-0 00:42:41.922 --> 00:42:42.232 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5035-0 00:42:45.172 --> 00:42:46.332 That's that's a really good. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5049-0 00:42:47.552 --> 00:42:50.322 I mean part of also, what makes it memorable? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5050-0 00:42:48.832 --> 00:42:50.352 Part of what makes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5060-0 00:42:51.662 --> 00:42:55.532 Useful iteration, yes, sounds sibilant sound jingles. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5062-0 00:42:58.912 --> 00:42:59.332 Which? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5074-0 00:43:00.102 --> 00:43:03.398 And order was very, very interested in Old English b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5074-1 00:43:03.398 --> 00:43:05.272 version like very well which. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5093-0 00:43:05.932 --> 00:43:09.377 I am used their alliterative they use a lot of alliteration b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5093-1 00:43:09.377 --> 00:43:12.592 and I think that goes back to your point of of ways of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5098-0 00:43:13.952 --> 00:43:15.762 Part of an oral tradition remembering. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5109-0 00:43:16.882 --> 00:43:19.662 Of being able to remember a param through the repetition of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5109-1 00:43:19.662 --> 00:43:20.172 the sounds. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5113-0 00:43:21.122 --> 00:43:21.552 Well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5123-0 00:43:24.182 --> 00:43:26.872 But you can also, I think makes it slightly theatrical. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5125-0 00:43:28.802 --> 00:43:29.182 No. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5181-0 00:43:31.202 --> 00:43:35.426 It does, but I think where is the the the use of S is around b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5181-1 00:43:35.426 --> 00:43:39.304 the sea. Is is that it's an absolute cliche now really, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5181-2 00:43:39.304 --> 00:43:43.805 isn't it? Everyone's done that, but that one because because the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5181-3 00:43:43.805 --> 00:43:47.960 line runs away and you it runs like the tide running in and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5181-4 00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:52.392 then that you can hear the noise of of how it sort of the water b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5181-5 00:43:52.392 --> 00:43:53.362 going through. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5254-0 00:43:55.002 --> 00:43:59.402 The the shingle and and it's it overcomes the what would b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5254-1 00:43:59.402 --> 00:44:04.420 possibly be a a cliche of using lots of essays about that. And I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5254-2 00:44:04.420 --> 00:44:08.820 like the way the, the the movement in that second stanza b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5254-3 00:44:08.820 --> 00:44:13.761 where the first the first line ends with pause. So you do pause b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5254-4 00:44:13.761 --> 00:44:18.701 and then the next one falls and then the pluck and the knock is b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5254-5 00:44:18.701 --> 00:44:23.642 is the forward and backwards and then the the shingle scrambles b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5254-6 00:44:23.642 --> 00:44:26.112 line is is moving quickly again. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5268-0 00:44:26.312 --> 00:44:29.712 And to go lodges and again we we stop, don't we we see it. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5279-0 00:44:30.452 --> 00:44:33.982 Lodge, do you have stopped on it on its side? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5270-0 00:44:30.612 --> 00:44:30.812 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5295-0 00:44:35.672 --> 00:44:40.051 I think that's that's masterful. The way the the the movement is, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5295-1 00:44:40.051 --> 00:44:41.842 is woven in with the words. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5317-0 00:44:42.532 --> 00:44:46.534 Yeah, really good observation. So this this is a poem that b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5317-1 00:44:46.534 --> 00:44:51.011 really embodies in its sound and its structure, it's it's subject b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5317-2 00:44:51.011 --> 00:44:51.282 and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5342-0 00:44:52.612 --> 00:44:57.485 And it's it's very, very concerned, isn't it to to draw b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5342-1 00:44:57.485 --> 00:45:03.141 the the reader in there. So he's using the imperative look stand b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5342-2 00:45:03.141 --> 00:45:04.272 silently and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5351-0 00:45:05.862 --> 00:45:09.072 You'll right at his side and he's taken you there and then. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5359-0 00:45:09.742 --> 00:45:11.192 Brought a live the scene. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5365-0 00:45:14.742 --> 00:45:16.132 And it's quite sublime. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5373-0 00:45:19.052 --> 00:45:21.122 Interesting because I think there is possibly. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5401-0 00:45:22.782 --> 00:45:27.932 Another side to this, poems well and and in a way, this shows the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5401-1 00:45:27.932 --> 00:45:32.301 ability of poetry to to interpret it in different ways. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5401-2 00:45:32.301 --> 00:45:35.032 And when this was written in 1937. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5409-0 00:45:35.812 --> 00:45:37.712 It was the pre war years so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5425-0 00:45:39.302 --> 00:45:42.175 You know who was on the doorstep? Everything was b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5425-1 00:45:42.175 --> 00:45:44.872 darkness. It darkening. Britain was in peril. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5427-0 00:45:45.622 --> 00:45:46.212 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5440-0 00:45:47.982 --> 00:45:51.101 Warden and other parts time were acutely aware of what might be b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5440-1 00:45:51.101 --> 00:45:51.442 coming. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5468-0 00:45:53.452 --> 00:45:56.835 And so he's kind of set up this, although sublime scene. But is b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5468-1 00:45:56.835 --> 00:45:59.795 he maybe questioning it? I wonder. I mean, there's this b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5468-2 00:45:59.795 --> 00:46:00.852 reference to clouds. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5476-0 00:46:01.732 --> 00:46:04.022 Just don't drink through the water all the summer. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5482-0 00:46:05.252 --> 00:46:07.122 And if you're asking us? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5489-0 00:46:09.152 --> 00:46:10.862 To look at this island, but maybe. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5492-0 00:46:12.162 --> 00:46:13.132 Stand there but. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5502-0 00:46:13.962 --> 00:46:17.819 Perhaps there's more coming than than just the beauty of the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5502-1 00:46:17.819 --> 00:46:18.262 moment. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5566-0 00:46:19.872 --> 00:46:23.343 Yeah, that's interesting. You said it because I the the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5566-1 00:46:23.343 --> 00:46:27.186 urgent, voluntary errands is a bit sort of. Where's that then b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5566-2 00:46:27.186 --> 00:46:31.153 cause the the floating seeds the ships is is a lovely image but b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5566-3 00:46:31.153 --> 00:46:35.058 then the the urgent voluntary errands and I suppose that there b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5566-4 00:46:35.058 --> 00:46:38.901 is that certain sort of there's things happening further away b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5566-5 00:46:38.901 --> 00:46:42.620 that well the they're going to literally come home to us at b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5566-6 00:46:42.620 --> 00:46:43.922 some point I suppose. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5582-0 00:46:44.522 --> 00:46:47.652 I'm so yes, it just it widens it a bit, doesn't it? And there's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5582-1 00:46:47.652 --> 00:46:49.462 other things happening in the world. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5585-0 00:46:50.442 --> 00:46:51.252 Precedings. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5587-0 00:46:54.152 --> 00:46:54.462 This. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5598-0 00:46:55.662 --> 00:46:58.612 Is actually a a almost a formula that's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5620-0 00:46:59.432 --> 00:47:02.522 God used by many parts and I went writing about, you know, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5620-1 00:47:02.522 --> 00:47:05.402 the coming coming climate change, the effects of that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5652-0 00:47:06.842 --> 00:47:09.704 Which we'll we'll go and we'll see another time and then a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5652-1 00:47:09.704 --> 00:47:12.566 little while that this taking that a little bit further. I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5652-2 00:47:12.566 --> 00:47:14.944 mean, I don't think climate change was a concern b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5652-3 00:47:14.944 --> 00:47:16.302 particularly for Orden, but. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5663-0 00:47:16.952 --> 00:47:20.282 That suggestion of of the flip side or dark side? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5666-0 00:47:22.392 --> 00:47:23.342 It's interesting. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5676-0 00:47:24.282 --> 00:47:26.832 OK. Any other comments, anybody? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5686-0 00:47:28.682 --> 00:47:31.342 We were particularly looking at the musicality in this. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5688-0 00:47:34.642 --> 00:47:35.122 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5696-0 00:47:36.472 --> 00:47:40.062 Alright, So what I want to do now. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5707-0 00:47:42.682 --> 00:47:46.022 Just come back to the screen and stop screen share. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5714-0 00:47:48.062 --> 00:47:50.352 Is do another little exercise with you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5720-0 00:47:55.782 --> 00:47:57.132 The grounds technical side. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5741-0 00:47:58.462 --> 00:48:02.466 And it's based on this poem, and it's gonna be a kind of a guided b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5741-1 00:48:02.466 --> 00:48:06.410 exercise, which to build up some material, which and we can then b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5741-2 00:48:06.410 --> 00:48:08.352 develop later on in the session. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5763-0 00:48:09.932 --> 00:48:14.044 It's. I've actually adapted it from one in this book how to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5763-1 00:48:14.044 --> 00:48:17.402 grow your own poems, which is brilliant book by. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5770-0 00:48:17.162 --> 00:48:19.012 What can't see that rose? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5775-0 00:48:18.952 --> 00:48:20.872 Sorry, Kate Clanchy, can you see it now? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5788-0 00:48:21.402 --> 00:48:24.742 How to grow? Grow your own poem. Ohh, very good. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5782-0 00:48:22.842 --> 00:48:23.182 Right. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5791-0 00:48:24.522 --> 00:48:25.932 A2 recommend this such. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5794-0 00:48:26.202 --> 00:48:26.892 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5806-0 00:48:28.312 --> 00:48:30.803 Putting up a bit of list of recommendations later in the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5806-1 00:48:30.803 --> 00:48:31.022 week. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5808-0 00:48:32.872 --> 00:48:33.322 No. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5814-0 00:48:34.402 --> 00:48:36.412 So we've just read island aloud. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5821-0 00:48:37.502 --> 00:48:38.852 What I want you to do, nurse. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5837-0 00:48:38.932 --> 00:48:43.462 Done this, you think not of a child landscape, but of your own b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5837-1 00:48:43.462 --> 00:48:45.332 home landscape now, right? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5839-0 00:48:46.362 --> 00:48:46.922 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5862-0 00:48:48.082 --> 00:48:53.326 And think about the view that you love or that's very familiar b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5862-1 00:48:53.326 --> 00:48:57.072 to you. Come back to in your home landscape. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5871-0 00:48:57.842 --> 00:49:00.032 You just make a note of that K. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5880-0 00:49:06.062 --> 00:49:09.212 Something you can count drop easily in your mind's eye. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5882-0 00:49:15.032 --> 00:49:15.532 Each. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5884-0 00:49:18.922 --> 00:49:19.492 Then. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5888-0 00:49:21.052 --> 00:49:22.092 Think about. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5906-0 00:49:24.412 --> 00:49:28.791 The weather for this place, will it be a perfect day? Calm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5906-1 00:49:28.791 --> 00:49:30.762 Sunny. Like an orange poem. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5909-0 00:49:31.562 --> 00:49:32.372 Will it be? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5912-0 00:49:33.932 --> 00:49:35.522 Stormy. Rainy. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5921-0 00:49:37.532 --> 00:49:39.642 Kind of weather do you want to set this view in? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5926-0 00:49:49.282 --> 00:49:51.052 Don't over think just. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5933-0 00:49:52.172 --> 00:49:53.702 Ever comes into your mind. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5940-0 00:49:59.712 --> 00:50:02.582 Right. And then I want you to. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5954-0 00:50:04.132 --> 00:50:07.965 Think about where is the best place to see this view. Where's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5954-1 00:50:07.965 --> 00:50:08.522 the spot? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5960-0 00:50:11.872 --> 00:50:13.592 And I want you to imagine that you're. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5968-0 00:50:14.292 --> 00:50:16.042 Going to guide the reader there. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5970-0 00:50:17.522 --> 00:50:18.212 Say. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5977-0 00:50:20.972 --> 00:50:23.532 Thinking about using the imperative mood? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5986-0 00:50:25.892 --> 00:50:29.382 Write some instructions for the reader how to get to this spot. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5990-0 00:50:30.072 --> 00:50:32.382 Take me. Look, see. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5993-0 00:50:33.722 --> 00:50:34.812 Stand there. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/5998-0 00:50:36.862 --> 00:50:38.482 Read this. Feel this. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6006-0 00:50:46.302 --> 00:50:48.992 Are we writing it in this order? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6029-0 00:50:52.572 --> 00:50:56.852 What the poem itself, when you come to, it's up to you. This is b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6016-0 00:50:53.952 --> 00:50:54.372 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6029-1 00:50:56.852 --> 00:51:00.062 this is a skeleton, a kind of guided framework. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6044-0 00:51:03.572 --> 00:51:06.909 That you can use, but obviously the part time you can you can b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6034-0 00:51:04.092 --> 00:51:04.412 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6044-1 00:51:06.909 --> 00:51:07.932 chop things around. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6048-0 00:51:10.002 --> 00:51:11.132 For most effect. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6066-0 00:51:17.482 --> 00:51:22.262 Is that it always start. Ohh OK. Sorry Ros. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6055-0 00:51:18.722 --> 00:51:19.122 No. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6073-0 00:51:19.932 --> 00:51:23.766 So I'll just give you a screen words better time to pack, to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6073-1 00:51:23.766 --> 00:51:24.772 carry on. Sorry. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6075-0 00:51:25.492 --> 00:51:25.902 The. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6082-0 00:51:26.632 --> 00:51:28.612 But you've guided your reader there. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6089-0 00:51:29.372 --> 00:51:31.592 And tell them what they'll see. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6104-0 00:51:33.132 --> 00:51:38.111 But also bringing other senses so that they could what they b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6104-1 00:51:38.111 --> 00:51:40.102 could smell, taste even. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6111-0 00:51:41.792 --> 00:51:44.092 They can hear what they can type much. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6117-0 00:51:51.812 --> 00:51:53.422 Most sense 3 details. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6128-0 00:52:16.552 --> 00:52:17.482 And then think about. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6139-0 00:52:18.542 --> 00:52:21.612 Other particular things that you want the reader to notice. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6147-0 00:52:22.902 --> 00:52:26.092 So you could include something moving. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6151-0 00:52:27.582 --> 00:52:28.772 Something still. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6157-0 00:52:30.492 --> 00:52:32.372 Something way off in the distance? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6160-0 00:52:34.552 --> 00:52:35.922 Something close to. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6171-0 00:53:06.032 --> 00:53:06.512 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6181-0 00:53:09.892 --> 00:53:14.062 Let's think about what this scene that you've invoked. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6190-0 00:53:14.922 --> 00:53:18.272 What will that do in our minds, in the reader's mind later on? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6198-0 00:53:21.112 --> 00:53:22.822 Do you want it to do in their mind? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6222-0 00:54:24.012 --> 00:54:24.622 Right. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6229-0 00:54:25.832 --> 00:54:28.102 And then just bring that to a close. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6232-0 00:54:29.702 --> 00:54:30.272 For that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6240-0 00:54:45.532 --> 00:54:48.992 OK, great. So. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6253-0 00:54:49.822 --> 00:54:53.985 That's a basic structure that I want you to develop a little bit b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6253-1 00:54:53.985 --> 00:54:54.562 later on. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6261-0 00:54:55.322 --> 00:54:57.272 In the in the session and then we'll. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6271-0 00:54:59.212 --> 00:55:01.922 Have a bit of a share of what you've come up with at this b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6271-1 00:55:01.922 --> 00:55:02.202 point. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6306-0 00:55:03.492 --> 00:55:07.358 I think you'd be working very hard, so I think we'll take a 10 b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6306-1 00:55:07.358 --> 00:55:11.347 minute break now, get some fresh air and stretch your legs, have b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6306-2 00:55:11.347 --> 00:55:15.152 a coffee and and then we'll look at some more poems. You come b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6306-3 00:55:15.152 --> 00:55:17.852 back and look at other approaches to place. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6317-0 00:55:19.082 --> 00:55:23.832 OK, alright then. So I'll see you all in 10 minutes time. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6320-0 00:55:24.682 --> 00:55:25.082 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6324-0 00:55:24.892 --> 00:55:27.842 OK, OK. Alright, everybody. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6469-0 01:03:29.012 --> 01:03:33.262 OK. Should we resume people? You're ready. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6474-0 01:03:34.112 --> 01:03:35.662 Switch to Claire. Hi. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6476-0 01:03:37.162 --> 01:03:37.672 Mm-hmm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6478-0 01:03:39.692 --> 01:03:39.902 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6481-0 01:03:47.102 --> 01:03:47.672 How we doing? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6488-0 01:03:50.002 --> 01:03:51.872 It's a long time to sit at the screen. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6493-0 01:03:53.382 --> 01:03:53.992 Hello. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6501-0 01:03:54.342 --> 01:03:56.632 Hi. Hi. Hi. Just wait for. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6507-0 01:03:56.062 --> 01:03:57.872 Sorry, I'm still munching and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6510-0 01:03:58.282 --> 01:03:59.012 Oh, don't worry. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6511-0 01:03:58.442 --> 01:04:00.272 Hi. Excellent. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6525-0 01:04:02.922 --> 01:04:06.372 You you could budge your drink while we TV something. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6526-0 01:04:04.822 --> 01:04:06.422 Ohh good hmm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6533-0 01:04:07.572 --> 01:04:09.122 Pick different rules. Apply on see. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6537-0 01:04:12.252 --> 01:04:12.902 Good job. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6543-0 01:04:13.372 --> 01:04:15.022 Just wait for Claire to get back. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6545-0 01:04:18.262 --> 01:04:18.492 1. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6556-0 01:04:30.882 --> 01:04:32.672 So, Ros, what are we do this? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6554-0 01:04:32.102 --> 01:04:32.352 Yep. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6562-0 01:04:32.752 --> 01:04:35.562 I'm just task now. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6599-0 01:04:36.542 --> 01:04:40.564 So I'll give you some time to work on it a little bit later. I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6599-1 01:04:40.564 --> 01:04:44.586 want to look at a couple more poems first, just to and then we b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6585-0 01:04:43.282 --> 01:04:43.662 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6599-2 01:04:44.586 --> 01:04:48.352 have some writing time and sharing time and then it'll be. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6611-0 01:04:51.172 --> 01:04:55.652 Well, you can then develop it at home or develop the. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6652-0 01:04:56.292 --> 01:05:00.203 Umm, the note she wrote about a child who placed into a poem. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6652-1 01:05:00.203 --> 01:05:04.241 But I I'll e-mail everybody what the tasks are anyway. Yeah. Or b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6652-2 01:05:04.241 --> 01:05:08.342 you can do both if you want over the course of the what? You're. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6638-0 01:05:04.582 --> 01:05:04.882 Don't be. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6649-0 01:05:07.072 --> 01:05:07.302 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6664-0 01:05:09.712 --> 01:05:12.152 I like to give everyone a choice because people have. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6671-0 01:05:13.252 --> 01:05:15.322 Not everyone is turned on by the same thing. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6676-0 01:05:16.902 --> 01:05:18.502 In terms of writing triggers. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6704-0 01:05:22.062 --> 01:05:26.304 Or different and can I ask Ros the citation? What? What is it b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6688-0 01:05:24.632 --> 01:05:24.932 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6691-0 01:05:25.822 --> 01:05:26.112 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6704-1 01:05:26.304 --> 01:05:30.273 am? I can't remember what it is just to make a note of it b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6704-2 01:05:30.273 --> 01:05:30.752 please. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6713-0 01:05:31.492 --> 01:05:35.022 You know when we're doing the bibliographies and referencing. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6716-0 01:05:36.192 --> 01:05:36.532 It's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6717-0 01:05:36.362 --> 01:05:36.612 Right. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6722-0 01:05:37.072 --> 01:05:38.482 What? What do we use? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6724-0 01:05:39.432 --> 01:05:40.432 Ohh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6736-0 01:05:41.852 --> 01:05:43.542 I'm hrs OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6742-0 01:05:41.942 --> 01:05:44.592 A March 3 I hrs. Sorry. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6761-0 01:05:44.302 --> 01:05:48.008 I told you, Mike, I did write it down. I just wanted to be sure. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6749-0 01:05:45.742 --> 01:05:46.172 It's cool. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6758-0 01:05:47.622 --> 01:05:47.942 That's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6761-1 01:05:48.008 --> 01:05:48.692 Yeah, me RE. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6765-0 01:05:49.472 --> 01:05:49.912 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6781-0 01:05:49.592 --> 01:05:54.381 Yeah, there's some guidelines on on Moodle and the handbook. You b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6781-1 01:05:54.381 --> 01:05:56.592 can access the handbook there. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6789-0 01:05:57.402 --> 01:05:59.632 Right. That's good. Just to be sure. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6785-0 01:05:58.002 --> 01:05:58.402 Let's see. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6828-0 01:06:00.162 --> 01:06:03.883 Yeah. And if you if you, you know, you're going along and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6828-1 01:06:03.883 --> 01:06:07.347 you're referencing your research, whatever it's, it's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6828-2 01:06:07.347 --> 01:06:11.389 good to kind of put it in MTR from the start because then then b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6828-3 01:06:11.389 --> 01:06:14.982 it's there and you don't have to fiddle around and ohh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6827-0 01:06:14.102 --> 01:06:14.702 Hmm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6834-0 01:06:15.672 --> 01:06:17.572 New, Stiff Joe, you looked a bit. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6839-0 01:06:17.512 --> 01:06:19.312 Yeah, yeah, yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6838-0 01:06:18.562 --> 01:06:18.892 So. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6845-0 01:06:19.442 --> 01:06:19.782 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6843-0 01:06:19.922 --> 01:06:20.162 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6858-0 01:06:20.402 --> 01:06:24.622 My, my my talk decided to be on the well last night so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6894-0 01:06:25.782 --> 01:06:31.117 Been up most of the night with her. Like. Yeah, she was sick on b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6869-0 01:06:26.482 --> 01:06:26.792 You know. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6876-0 01:06:29.122 --> 01:06:29.522 Sure. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6894-1 01:06:31.117 --> 01:06:35.952 my bed. And I just. I've just had a really ****** nights. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6882-0 01:06:31.542 --> 01:06:32.272 Ohh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6884-0 01:06:32.802 --> 01:06:33.212 3. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6897-0 01:06:36.332 --> 01:06:37.332 My. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6931-0 01:06:38.192 --> 01:06:42.944 As opposed, I went to the the the poetry night in Carmarthen b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6931-1 01:06:42.944 --> 01:06:47.618 with with Don last night. So so I was tired when I got home b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6913-0 01:06:43.412 --> 01:06:44.122 Oh, did you? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6931-2 01:06:47.618 --> 01:06:49.332 anyway from the drive. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6953-0 01:06:50.652 --> 01:06:53.820 But I want a box of chocolates in the raffle, so maybe I'll go b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6953-1 01:06:53.820 --> 01:06:54.122 again. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6955-0 01:06:54.552 --> 01:06:55.482 Well, that's good. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6956-0 01:06:54.622 --> 01:06:55.512 Compensation. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6972-0 01:06:56.502 --> 01:06:59.752 Where is it these days? Where does he do his poetry? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6968-0 01:06:57.032 --> 01:06:57.892 Like you straight. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6977-0 01:07:00.162 --> 01:07:02.092 I King Street in Carmarthen. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6987-0 01:07:03.342 --> 01:07:05.972 Uh, it's not like the neotel 1. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6982-0 01:07:03.632 --> 01:07:04.152 Human. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/6999-0 01:07:06.562 --> 01:07:10.992 No, it's it's some kuru. It's 32 King Street it is. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7001-0 01:07:11.262 --> 01:07:12.012 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7004-0 01:07:13.602 --> 01:07:13.972 As. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7054-0 01:07:13.622 --> 01:07:17.364 I'm a bit bitter to miss these days cause I'm better still b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7054-1 01:07:17.364 --> 01:07:21.360 between worlds, so when I do get there I don't do very. I made b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7018-0 01:07:18.772 --> 01:07:19.102 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7054-2 01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:25.165 their it or more. I'm you know, that's why I go in town and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7054-3 01:07:25.165 --> 01:07:29.351 back. So I'm not really stopping off for anything particular. Ah, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7054-4 01:07:29.351 --> 01:07:30.112 King Street. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7057-0 01:07:31.212 --> 01:07:31.552 Wow. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7058-0 01:07:31.402 --> 01:07:31.782 What is? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7070-0 01:07:32.712 --> 01:07:34.022 Did you read anything after? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7096-0 01:07:32.712 --> 01:07:36.584 Yeah. If you go from town, you go past the lyric and further b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7084-0 01:07:36.192 --> 01:07:37.772 Yeah. Ohh yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7096-1 01:07:36.584 --> 01:07:40.456 down and then it's it's just before you go down the alleyway b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7096-2 01:07:40.456 --> 01:07:41.852 to the car park there. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7101-0 01:07:42.002 --> 01:07:44.252 Alright, OK. Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7107-0 01:07:45.432 --> 01:07:47.282 Well, you still doing that then every week? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7122-0 01:07:47.672 --> 01:07:51.200 Every two weeks, I think. And then they have a guest reader in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7116-0 01:07:49.502 --> 01:07:49.762 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7122-1 01:07:51.200 --> 01:07:51.872 every month. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7131-0 01:07:52.252 --> 01:07:57.662 Well, see is that so that every Monday then? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7166-0 01:07:58.392 --> 01:08:01.772 Yeah, yeah, you can zoom in. They do it on zoom. You don't b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7135-0 01:07:58.682 --> 01:07:59.032 Every. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7142-0 01:08:00.162 --> 01:08:00.362 Yep. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7166-1 01:08:01.772 --> 01:08:05.209 actually have to go, but you still have to sort of pay your b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7156-0 01:08:03.602 --> 01:08:04.372 Really. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7166-2 01:08:05.209 --> 01:08:08.302 £3.00 sort of thing. And yeah, they they have people. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7197-0 01:08:09.572 --> 01:08:13.042 And some people are standing up and reading and some people are b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7197-1 01:08:13.042 --> 01:08:16.349 reading from zoom. They've got this massive screen there. So b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7189-0 01:08:16.082 --> 01:08:16.652 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7197-2 01:08:16.349 --> 01:08:19.222 you can you can see the people that are reading and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7222-0 01:08:20.182 --> 01:08:24.684 Really really interesting setup is really really good here. So b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7206-0 01:08:20.202 --> 01:08:21.642 Well, that's good, Andy as well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7222-1 01:08:24.684 --> 01:08:28.472 they had people lady read a poem. She was in Greece. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7244-0 01:08:30.772 --> 01:08:35.443 Where else was I? Somebody from Ireland read a poem. He said b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7244-1 01:08:35.443 --> 01:08:39.502 he's some quite often has a lady zoom in from India. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7251-0 01:08:40.082 --> 01:08:42.162 Wow, isn't it great? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7301-0 01:08:40.772 --> 01:08:44.903 I'm not quite interested. Yeah, cause that like they read their b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7301-1 01:08:44.903 --> 01:08:48.969 poem in English, but obviously they've written it in their own b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7281-0 01:08:48.682 --> 01:08:50.552 Alright and then translator. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7301-2 01:08:48.969 --> 01:08:53.036 language. So then when they read it in their own language, you b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7301-3 01:08:53.036 --> 01:08:57.102 can sort of reclosure I don't understand many other languages, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7301-4 01:08:57.102 --> 01:08:58.522 but you can hear this. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7321-0 01:08:58.602 --> 01:09:03.270 Then, like the emotional sort of connection that they've got with b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7321-1 01:09:03.270 --> 01:09:06.312 it in, in their voice, you know, which is. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7332-0 01:09:05.772 --> 01:09:10.054 That's not. That's not something I've done. Listen to poetry and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7332-1 01:09:10.054 --> 01:09:11.042 other people's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7334-0 01:09:11.792 --> 01:09:12.712 Language. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7340-0 01:09:12.712 --> 01:09:14.992 I know it's really interesting, yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7342-0 01:09:15.072 --> 01:09:15.322 It's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7347-0 01:09:15.982 --> 01:09:17.392 Umm go? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7346-0 01:09:17.172 --> 01:09:17.652 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7401-0 01:09:20.272 --> 01:09:24.755 There's a band that got into lately that uses a lot of old. I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7401-1 01:09:24.755 --> 01:09:28.804 slammed Vic poetry called Hailang. It's kind of lots of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7370-0 01:09:25.612 --> 01:09:26.062 Ah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7373-0 01:09:25.872 --> 01:09:26.202 Good. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7401-2 01:09:28.804 --> 01:09:32.708 drumming, quite kind of shamanic, but one of the band b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7401-3 01:09:32.708 --> 01:09:36.613 members is quite into like, really old kind of Viking b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7401-4 01:09:36.613 --> 01:09:37.842 poetry, you know. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7403-0 01:09:38.362 --> 01:09:38.852 Alright. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7434-0 01:09:39.132 --> 01:09:42.343 So that's although I can't really understand, I haven't b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7434-1 01:09:42.343 --> 01:09:45.726 gone on Google to kind of translate what they're on about. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7434-2 01:09:45.726 --> 01:09:49.109 But it's really interesting hearing because obviously some b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7434-3 01:09:49.109 --> 01:09:51.632 of the Slavic languages have got very hard. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7436-0 01:09:52.322 --> 01:09:52.612 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7448-0 01:09:53.002 --> 01:09:54.852 OK, sounds and that came up. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7447-0 01:09:54.312 --> 01:09:54.832 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7451-0 01:09:55.202 --> 01:09:56.012 Yeah, yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7462-0 01:09:56.052 --> 01:09:59.652 It's it's very clever, very atmospheric. So yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7477-0 01:09:59.412 --> 01:10:03.414 You can sort of understand where the Scots get their accent from b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7477-1 01:10:03.414 --> 01:10:03.722 them. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7481-0 01:10:04.602 --> 01:10:05.142 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7480-0 01:10:04.612 --> 01:10:05.192 Definitely. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7483-0 01:10:05.262 --> 01:10:05.532 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7486-0 01:10:06.102 --> 01:10:06.902 Ohh, here's Claire. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7489-0 01:10:08.202 --> 01:10:08.712 Interesting. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7504-0 01:10:11.862 --> 01:10:14.432 Yeah. No, don't, don't. Poetry lights are good, I think. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7498-0 01:10:12.482 --> 01:10:13.212 This is just. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7512-0 01:10:14.442 --> 01:10:16.172 Yeah. Yeah, that was interesting. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7510-0 01:10:15.402 --> 01:10:15.812 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7515-0 01:10:16.122 --> 01:10:16.702 Also comma. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7524-0 01:10:17.582 --> 01:10:18.852 Yeah, he's quite. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7526-0 01:10:18.162 --> 01:10:19.732 He's teaching him out, doesn't he? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7546-0 01:10:19.882 --> 01:10:24.017 Yeah, he's quite good. MC as well. He's always got something b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7546-1 01:10:24.017 --> 01:10:26.322 to say about every person's poem. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7549-0 01:10:26.572 --> 01:10:28.352 9 Sir mockable. Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7550-0 01:10:28.092 --> 01:10:28.792 Yeah, yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7552-0 01:10:29.812 --> 01:10:30.312 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7554-0 01:10:31.222 --> 01:10:31.952 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7571-0 01:10:38.512 --> 01:10:38.712 Right. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7579-0 01:10:39.042 --> 01:10:41.072 Who I want to share with you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7588-0 01:10:41.152 --> 01:10:44.782 Umm couple more poems from the PowerPoint. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7593-0 01:10:46.392 --> 01:10:47.442 It's been that up. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7596-0 01:10:56.232 --> 01:10:56.942 Take a look. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7608-0 01:10:58.852 --> 01:11:02.842 These two umm, I forgot to put the name of the poet on. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7617-0 01:11:03.572 --> 01:11:05.772 Of Saint Eyes, February so it's UM. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7651-0 01:11:07.192 --> 01:11:10.919 One, called Rhiannon Hussein. You might have heard of the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7651-1 01:11:10.919 --> 01:11:14.967 temporary Welsh approach. She's very good from Radnorshire and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7651-2 01:11:14.967 --> 01:11:18.436 it's from her collection. Goliat, as I say, a list, a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7651-3 01:11:18.436 --> 01:11:21.392 poem, bibliography on Moodle during the week. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7663-0 01:11:22.592 --> 01:11:26.890 And we've also got here, I'm sure you recognize a little b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7663-1 01:11:26.890 --> 01:11:27.342 haiku. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7665-0 01:11:28.132 --> 01:11:28.322 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7667-0 01:11:28.712 --> 01:11:29.152 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7689-0 01:11:30.942 --> 01:11:35.586 Point of these two poems and for me is that they're both very b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7689-1 01:11:35.586 --> 01:11:39.482 hiku like one obviously is a huge tycoon that they. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7692-0 01:11:41.062 --> 01:11:41.942 They give you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7694-0 01:11:44.112 --> 01:11:44.602 Quite. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7716-0 01:11:46.152 --> 01:11:50.847 Self-contained static image of place and then that nature but b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7716-1 01:11:50.847 --> 01:11:54.482 that but also there's a change within the poem. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7730-0 01:11:56.642 --> 01:12:01.897 So they're also invoking time and the future possibility and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7730-1 01:12:01.897 --> 01:12:02.242 and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7743-0 01:12:03.092 --> 01:12:06.832 A story. If you like evolving out of that initial image. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7782-0 01:12:07.652 --> 01:12:11.376 And this comes back to what I was saying about Thomas being b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7782-1 01:12:11.376 --> 01:12:15.225 about something that they they move through the course of the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7782-2 01:12:15.225 --> 01:12:18.949 poem. There's some kind of dynamic action takes place. What b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7782-3 01:12:18.949 --> 01:12:21.432 don't I like to actually just read the? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7787-0 01:12:22.532 --> 01:12:23.822 Little haiku for me. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7792-0 01:12:25.002 --> 01:12:26.052 The volunteers. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7796-0 01:12:27.472 --> 01:12:28.132 Which one? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7797-0 01:12:27.602 --> 01:12:28.232 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7799-0 01:12:28.792 --> 01:12:29.102 4. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7803-0 01:12:29.642 --> 01:12:31.042 The fundamental yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7807-0 01:12:32.292 --> 01:12:33.252 They got to volunteer. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7809-0 01:12:34.062 --> 01:12:34.642 Yeah. OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7813-0 01:12:35.232 --> 01:12:36.262 OK, brilliant. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7815-0 01:12:36.022 --> 01:12:37.412 OK, OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7828-0 01:12:39.112 --> 01:12:44.052 Thunder bellied clouds move slow over heathered hills. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7834-0 01:12:44.742 --> 01:12:46.712 Pregnant with June terrain. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7838-0 01:12:48.582 --> 01:12:49.372 Thank you, Joe. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7840-0 01:12:50.022 --> 01:12:50.252 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7844-0 01:12:53.612 --> 01:12:54.842 Comments, anybody? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7850-0 01:13:00.192 --> 01:13:01.522 I can see the imagery. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7852-0 01:13:02.202 --> 01:13:02.712 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7854-0 01:13:03.142 --> 01:13:03.682 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7876-0 01:13:08.302 --> 01:13:11.567 Is it about a pregnant woman of the curiosity? I know he's got b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7876-1 01:13:11.567 --> 01:13:14.832 pregnant with junes rain, but I wondered if it was a bit of a. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7892-0 01:13:15.602 --> 01:13:19.533 Twist. You know a Thunder bellied cloud, something going b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7892-1 01:13:19.533 --> 01:13:21.602 on in the belly? I don't know. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7910-0 01:13:22.522 --> 01:13:25.438 Yeah, I'm. I mean, you think that cause it's it's sorry. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7902-0 01:13:23.862 --> 01:13:24.112 I mean. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7910-1 01:13:25.438 --> 01:13:26.512 Someone else? Oh, no. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7925-0 01:13:28.042 --> 01:13:31.293 That's the metaphoric work, I suppose it immediately make b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7921-0 01:13:30.302 --> 01:13:30.842 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7925-1 01:13:31.293 --> 01:13:32.582 connection so that the. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7938-0 01:13:33.502 --> 01:13:36.709 That possible narrative runs alongside the place. The scene b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7938-1 01:13:36.709 --> 01:13:38.152 that you're presented with. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7949-0 01:13:39.782 --> 01:13:42.182 And they become kind of image of each other, don't they? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7952-0 01:13:44.482 --> 01:13:45.252 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7954-0 01:13:48.522 --> 01:13:49.162 Notice. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7970-0 01:13:52.072 --> 01:13:56.085 I mean 2 lines how much information and atmosphere we b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7970-1 01:13:56.085 --> 01:13:56.382 get. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7976-0 01:13:57.122 --> 01:13:59.422 Umm, just from from the. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7998-0 01:14:00.102 --> 01:14:04.403 Descriptive words, underbelly, age and the Heathered hills were b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7998-1 01:14:04.403 --> 01:14:07.092 immediately placed, aren't we and yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/7997-0 01:14:06.392 --> 01:14:06.642 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8007-0 01:14:08.362 --> 01:14:11.252 So they follow clouds stole me is that? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8012-0 01:14:12.792 --> 01:14:13.902 Movement chains. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8014-0 01:14:14.202 --> 01:14:14.592 It. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8023-0 01:14:16.572 --> 01:14:18.642 But I I suppose the point is that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8035-0 01:14:19.322 --> 01:14:22.252 Because it's the stillness there. But it's not still at b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8035-1 01:14:22.252 --> 01:14:22.932 all. There's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8045-0 01:14:23.932 --> 01:14:26.462 There's a movement through time. There's a movement to. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8050-0 01:14:27.942 --> 01:14:30.132 Entirely different dimension. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8071-0 01:14:31.202 --> 01:14:34.836 What does pregnant with June's reign suggest to you? Apart b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8071-1 01:14:34.836 --> 01:14:36.992 from, you know, the obvious facts? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8072-0 01:14:37.302 --> 01:14:37.742 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8081-0 01:14:38.512 --> 01:14:40.692 Because it's been a deliver soon, isn't it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8084-0 01:14:41.322 --> 01:14:42.842 Yes, yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8096-0 01:14:44.022 --> 01:14:47.782 Yeah, this obviously a build up to the rain coming. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8098-0 01:14:48.812 --> 01:14:49.402 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8121-0 01:14:51.252 --> 01:14:55.309 It's also that life, isn't it in, you know, the the given the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8121-1 01:14:55.309 --> 01:14:59.366 life pregnant, it's gonna give birth to the rain and then the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8121-2 01:14:59.366 --> 01:15:00.282 rain is gonna. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8132-0 01:15:01.642 --> 01:15:04.132 Induce life on the land as well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8134-0 01:15:04.672 --> 01:15:05.162 Hmm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8136-0 01:15:05.882 --> 01:15:06.432 So. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8138-0 01:15:08.022 --> 01:15:08.222 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8144-0 01:15:09.062 --> 01:15:10.652 Yes, exactly. So out of that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8146-0 01:15:13.442 --> 01:15:14.072 Turning point. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8152-0 01:15:17.782 --> 01:15:19.052 Get a whole world and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8156-0 01:15:20.252 --> 01:15:21.472 Sorry across time. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8164-0 01:15:23.162 --> 01:15:25.112 Very close connection, I think between place. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8174-0 01:15:31.602 --> 01:15:33.622 Where did you want to say something? Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8181-0 01:15:31.802 --> 01:15:34.812 Sorry Ros, you seem to be going in and out. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8183-0 01:15:35.182 --> 01:15:35.952 Oh, sorry. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8190-0 01:15:35.252 --> 01:15:37.482 Yeah, sounds not very good here. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8195-0 01:15:37.512 --> 01:15:39.352 I can't quite choose, yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8207-0 01:15:40.052 --> 01:15:42.592 It could be me and I will block that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8218-0 01:15:41.652 --> 01:15:44.462 No, I I was trying to work that out as well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8223-0 01:15:43.992 --> 01:15:46.712 All they're. Yeah. There we go. Thank you, rose. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8229-0 01:15:48.342 --> 01:15:49.552 Right. Can you hear me now? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8233-0 01:15:49.752 --> 01:15:51.292 Yes, sounds good. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8252-0 01:15:51.852 --> 01:15:55.567 Yeah, I was. I was what? I was just saying was that there's a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8252-1 01:15:55.567 --> 01:15:58.803 lot of poems explore the connection between place and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8252-2 01:15:58.803 --> 01:15:59.342 time and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8256-0 01:16:00.182 --> 01:16:01.182 How nice. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8267-0 01:16:02.092 --> 01:16:04.132 It's not a static, it's always. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8280-0 01:16:04.922 --> 01:16:08.783 So was its past and its future, and it's always dynamic and in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8280-1 01:16:08.783 --> 01:16:09.212 motion. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8287-0 01:16:10.482 --> 01:16:13.752 Capturing that can be challenging and exciting. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8301-0 01:16:15.232 --> 01:16:18.102 I read I read you the next poem, St. Ives, February. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8314-0 01:16:19.712 --> 01:16:23.200 The scene in winter when light falls like static upon the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8314-1 01:16:23.200 --> 01:16:24.102 drizzled waves. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8347-0 01:16:24.872 --> 01:16:29.375 Space still above its plain for Thunder spoon space for clouds b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8347-1 01:16:29.375 --> 01:16:33.379 to sow the seeds of their grandeur. A tiring inhalation b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8347-2 01:16:33.379 --> 01:16:35.952 from which the water breathes salt. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8397-0 01:16:37.252 --> 01:16:42.630 Early morning girls are dropping muscles onto the roof, light b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8397-1 01:16:42.630 --> 01:16:47.747 angles in levering Vermilion into a palette of Grays, soon b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8397-2 01:16:47.747 --> 01:16:53.212 Swifts will come on confused. Winds throughout the open lines. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8397-3 01:16:53.212 --> 01:16:58.243 The town, with their calls and in their eyes, are strange b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8397-4 01:16:58.243 --> 01:17:01.192 blooming of early summer flowers. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8407-0 01:17:08.272 --> 01:17:10.772 Right. Just take that pine in for a moment. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8431-0 01:17:11.922 --> 01:17:16.120 I want you to think about in in what ways it resembles the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8431-1 01:17:16.120 --> 01:17:19.322 haiku. You can see some kind of resemblance. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8434-0 01:17:21.272 --> 01:17:21.982 To anyone. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8443-0 01:17:24.612 --> 01:17:26.922 Like I can't see it very well. Sorry, rose. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8450-0 01:17:26.962 --> 01:17:29.402 Oh, I'm sorry. Ohh, I'd make it again. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8454-0 01:17:28.702 --> 01:17:30.502 I don't know. That's OK, it's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8478-0 01:17:31.762 --> 01:17:34.845 But small and my eyeballs him quite well they were. That's a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8478-1 01:17:34.845 --> 01:17:36.462 bit better. Yeah, that's better. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8481-0 01:17:36.792 --> 01:17:38.622 And everyone see that comfortably now. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8483-0 01:17:39.392 --> 01:17:39.572 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8491-0 01:17:48.572 --> 01:17:50.112 For any reactions at all anymore. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8497-0 01:17:53.682 --> 01:17:55.752 How this pirates creating place? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8516-0 01:18:05.122 --> 01:18:08.776 These painted a picture basically, isn't he describing b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8516-1 01:18:08.776 --> 01:18:11.632 exactly where he is and it is in February? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8522-0 01:18:13.552 --> 01:18:15.602 So the title as well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8527-0 01:18:16.302 --> 01:18:17.512 You know, shows. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8535-0 01:18:18.322 --> 01:18:21.232 Really, what the season and time of year? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8547-0 01:18:23.792 --> 01:18:27.591 Yes, which is a very hiku thing to place this time of year b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8547-1 01:18:27.591 --> 01:18:28.042 season. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8549-0 01:18:28.622 --> 01:18:29.042 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8552-0 01:18:28.732 --> 01:18:29.822 Natural scene. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8562-0 01:18:31.992 --> 01:18:34.512 There's anticipation in both of them, isn't there? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8569-0 01:18:34.982 --> 01:18:37.842 Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8596-0 01:18:43.442 --> 01:18:47.001 And we're not just being given an image. Something's happening, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8596-1 01:18:47.001 --> 01:18:50.393 and there's a turning point. Where would you set the turning b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8596-2 01:18:50.393 --> 01:18:51.672 point is in Saint Ives. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8599-0 01:18:53.382 --> 01:18:53.882 They want. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8604-0 01:19:01.042 --> 01:19:01.852 I might be more than one. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8650-0 01:19:03.782 --> 01:19:08.537 I feel like early morning goals are dropping muscles onto the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8650-1 01:19:08.537 --> 01:19:13.292 roof. Puts us into a a precise moment and also brings in some b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8650-2 01:19:13.292 --> 01:19:17.740 action and some immediacy and light angles in. So there's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8634-0 01:19:15.542 --> 01:19:15.952 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8650-3 01:19:17.740 --> 01:19:21.882 there's a change in the light as we move from winter. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8665-0 01:19:22.722 --> 01:19:25.982 Umm yeah. Thought that. And then on the. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8653-0 01:19:23.042 --> 01:19:23.502 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8667-0 01:19:24.662 --> 01:19:26.272 And then looking ahead to this way. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8682-0 01:19:26.962 --> 01:19:30.441 Yeah, that and the Swifts. I think the, like you said, the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8682-1 01:19:30.441 --> 01:19:32.092 injured action of the birds. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8688-0 01:19:33.462 --> 01:19:35.352 Can you bring that movement in? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8738-0 01:19:36.142 --> 01:19:41.702 Hello, dog. See another state in February, but Swifts very much a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8738-1 01:19:41.702 --> 01:19:46.757 a summer boot for us. And they is it different learnings in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8714-0 01:19:45.032 --> 01:19:45.382 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8738-2 01:19:46.757 --> 01:19:49.032 James, just something else? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8750-0 01:19:47.882 --> 01:19:51.112 No, I think this longing for it just because. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8743-0 01:19:47.912 --> 01:19:50.232 With the could just it says soon, doesn't it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8732-0 01:19:48.202 --> 01:19:48.562 Wow. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8771-0 01:19:50.542 --> 01:19:54.759 What do you think she's saying about that? If you pick up on b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8752-0 01:19:50.582 --> 01:19:51.582 Oh soon. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8760-0 01:19:53.102 --> 01:19:53.352 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8771-1 01:19:54.759 --> 01:19:59.252 some of the some of the phrases like confused winds and strange? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8770-0 01:19:58.682 --> 01:19:59.512 Ah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8773-0 01:20:00.022 --> 01:20:00.512 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8781-0 01:20:00.362 --> 01:20:02.022 Yeah. Do you think they're pointing at? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8778-0 01:20:01.012 --> 01:20:01.412 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8789-0 01:20:03.352 --> 01:20:05.742 Some of the confusion of climate change, perhaps. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8792-0 01:20:06.192 --> 01:20:06.532 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8795-0 01:20:06.632 --> 01:20:06.912 E. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8797-0 01:20:06.632 --> 01:20:07.252 Is this? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8799-0 01:20:07.972 --> 01:20:08.362 Did. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8807-0 01:20:10.432 --> 01:20:12.732 This this kind of flipped side like there was in. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8812-0 01:20:13.442 --> 01:20:14.552 An ordinance poem. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8828-0 01:20:14.492 --> 01:20:18.320 Soon Swifts, when you say soon. What's a fair bit of a May? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8828-1 01:20:18.320 --> 01:20:20.042 June, July, August 6 month. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8830-0 01:20:21.452 --> 01:20:21.962 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8839-0 01:20:22.142 --> 01:20:23.132 Have them being picky. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8841-0 01:20:22.462 --> 01:20:24.062 How Smith's coming 8 April? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8887-0 01:20:25.392 --> 01:20:29.991 And it has got earlier over the last 20 years, it used to be the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8856-0 01:20:28.582 --> 01:20:28.952 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8887-1 01:20:29.991 --> 01:20:34.520 beginning of May they go again end of August into September. So b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8872-0 01:20:33.712 --> 01:20:34.532 Yeah, it's true. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8887-2 01:20:34.520 --> 01:20:39.049 I suppose if it's late February and they might turn up St. Ives b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8887-3 01:20:39.049 --> 01:20:40.252 is further South. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8890-0 01:20:40.652 --> 01:20:41.322 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8899-0 01:20:40.892 --> 01:20:43.822 Perhaps the government, the end of March, maybe. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8902-0 01:20:43.142 --> 01:20:44.932 Could be there definitely. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8904-0 01:20:45.622 --> 01:20:45.892 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8906-0 01:20:45.812 --> 01:20:46.162 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8916-0 01:20:47.842 --> 01:20:50.752 But perhaps that that ambiguity is meant to be part of the poem. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8929-0 01:20:51.622 --> 01:20:55.562 To cause cause beginning. She's she sets up this quiet. Sort of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8958-0 01:20:56.662 --> 01:21:01.072 Uh, romantically catalog scene. It's a kind of like words worthy b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8958-1 01:21:01.072 --> 01:21:05.347 in sublime, isn't it? With the with the building of the clouds b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8958-2 01:21:05.347 --> 01:21:06.772 and the grandeur and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8957-0 01:21:06.942 --> 01:21:07.332 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8978-0 01:21:09.882 --> 01:21:13.185 Suddenly, like you say, there's this. This change there, like b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8978-1 01:21:13.185 --> 01:21:16.276 the girls interrupt this dropping muscles on the roof and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/8978-2 01:21:16.276 --> 01:21:16.702 sort of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9014-0 01:21:18.232 --> 01:21:23.481 Jokes is out of that that very painfully romantic image, and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9014-1 01:21:23.481 --> 01:21:28.731 then we're back to it, but with much more ambiguity. So. So, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9014-2 01:21:28.731 --> 01:21:33.722 like the haiku, we're moving into a different season, but b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9014-3 01:21:33.722 --> 01:21:34.152 it's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9022-0 01:21:34.812 --> 01:21:38.542 It's confused. Wins and strange glooming so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9026-0 01:21:40.172 --> 01:21:41.712 Ah, there's some. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9043-0 01:21:42.632 --> 01:21:45.998 I'd be dark side to the way she's looking on the place. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9043-1 01:21:45.998 --> 01:21:48.462 That's relationship to time and climate. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9047-0 01:21:49.892 --> 01:21:51.342 Umm and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9058-0 01:21:52.872 --> 01:21:55.512 I think it's very interesting what she does with time here. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9060-0 01:21:56.712 --> 01:21:57.142 Cause. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9083-0 01:21:58.902 --> 01:22:01.878 As in the other poems were invited into the scene, and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9083-1 01:22:01.878 --> 01:22:05.125 we're presented, we're presented with that initial scene in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9083-2 01:22:05.125 --> 01:22:05.612 February. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9085-0 01:22:06.762 --> 01:22:07.172 I'm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9103-0 01:22:08.242 --> 01:22:11.765 Static upon the drizzled ways we're lingering in those b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9103-1 01:22:11.765 --> 01:22:14.712 details, but then she moves into if you like. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9106-0 01:22:15.642 --> 01:22:16.792 A conditional. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9139-0 01:22:18.102 --> 01:22:22.050 Umm, a possibility of what might happen? Space still above its b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9139-1 01:22:22.050 --> 01:22:25.559 plane because thunders boom space for clouds to sow the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9139-2 01:22:25.559 --> 01:22:29.381 seeds of their grandeur. So we're in that moment. We're also b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9139-3 01:22:29.381 --> 01:22:32.702 thinking about what could happen, what might happen. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9142-0 01:22:33.422 --> 01:22:34.012 Which is. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9150-0 01:22:35.572 --> 01:22:38.282 And it different kind of time zone, isn't it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9164-0 01:22:39.302 --> 01:22:42.387 And then suddenly, we're back in the present and it's very b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9164-1 01:22:42.387 --> 01:22:43.642 specific, early morning. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9228-0 01:22:44.952 --> 01:22:49.454 I'm the way we're looking into the future, and but all these b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9228-1 01:22:49.454 --> 01:22:54.251 moments, the present moment, the the possibility of might, might b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9228-2 01:22:54.251 --> 01:22:58.237 come, future of presented so vividly that it's like 1 b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9228-3 01:22:58.237 --> 01:23:03.034 continuous image and and I think that's really interesting and I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9228-4 01:23:03.034 --> 01:23:07.168 think I think in poetry especially you can you can move b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9228-5 01:23:07.168 --> 01:23:11.596 around in time keeping your images in the present cells and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9228-6 01:23:11.596 --> 01:23:14.622 very vivid and you can you can bring in. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9247-0 01:23:14.792 --> 01:23:18.886 The what ifs. This might happen. This could happen. This is going b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9247-1 01:23:18.886 --> 01:23:22.112 to happen in the future. This happened in the past. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9277-0 01:23:23.012 --> 01:23:26.164 So that place we often think when we're we're writing about b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9277-1 01:23:26.164 --> 01:23:29.473 place, think about place that we're here in that place at this b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9277-2 01:23:29.473 --> 01:23:31.942 particular time. That's it. But place is also. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9313-0 01:23:32.992 --> 01:23:36.721 Made-up of of what it was, what it might be, what it will be in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9313-1 01:23:36.721 --> 01:23:40.391 the future. You can blend those together in in quite effective b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9313-2 01:23:40.391 --> 01:23:43.771 ways. I think just very much something to bear about very b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9308-0 01:23:41.892 --> 01:23:42.112 It's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9313-3 01:23:43.771 --> 01:23:44.062 mind. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9321-0 01:23:45.232 --> 01:23:48.002 When you when you're doing what I'm writing of place. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9331-0 01:23:49.302 --> 01:23:50.302 And you're the thoughts? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9348-0 01:23:49.422 --> 01:23:52.788 It's almost like things are going on under your nose. Life b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9348-1 01:23:52.788 --> 01:23:55.412 goes on anyway, and the changes is happening. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9354-0 01:23:55.952 --> 01:23:56.852 Yes, yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9359-0 01:23:56.512 --> 01:23:59.902 And then suddenly it would have all changed. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9365-0 01:24:00.622 --> 01:24:02.752 Yes. Yeah, yeah and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9372-0 01:24:03.362 --> 01:24:04.222 And it's it's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9380-0 01:24:03.642 --> 01:24:07.072 Without hardly really noticing, I suppose. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9395-0 01:24:08.182 --> 01:24:11.168 And it's what's there. But it's also what you imagine might be b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9388-0 01:24:08.652 --> 01:24:08.922 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9395-1 01:24:11.168 --> 01:24:11.452 there. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9397-0 01:24:11.922 --> 01:24:12.372 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9399-0 01:24:14.052 --> 01:24:14.622 So. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9409-0 01:24:18.422 --> 01:24:20.986 And the other thing actually wanted to say about these poems b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9409-1 01:24:20.986 --> 01:24:21.112 is. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9427-0 01:24:24.332 --> 01:24:27.913 They do have a kind of plot, don't they? So we move from one b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9427-1 01:24:27.913 --> 01:24:30.262 place into another, different time and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9437-0 01:24:31.662 --> 01:24:35.729 The thought the image is unpacked into thoughts of the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9437-1 01:24:35.729 --> 01:24:36.542 future and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9445-0 01:24:38.812 --> 01:24:42.162 Suggestion possibly of climate change. So UM. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9449-0 01:24:42.982 --> 01:24:44.232 They're not just simply. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9453-0 01:24:45.122 --> 01:24:46.122 The image that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9466-0 01:24:47.042 --> 01:24:50.912 The whole scenario, whole story coming after that image as well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9473-0 01:24:53.892 --> 01:24:56.452 And the other thoughts, anybody at my? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9475-0 01:25:00.062 --> 01:25:00.472 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9489-0 01:25:03.902 --> 01:25:06.754 Let's take a look, then ohk. Joe, did you want to say b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9489-1 01:25:06.754 --> 01:25:07.282 something? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9491-0 01:25:08.062 --> 01:25:08.602 Let's see. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9493-0 01:25:09.362 --> 01:25:09.782 No. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9498-0 01:25:11.172 --> 01:25:12.152 Let's take a look. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9500-0 01:25:13.632 --> 01:25:14.272 Watch. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9525-0 01:25:15.432 --> 01:25:19.628 This one might need to slightly reduce the size. This is by b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9525-1 01:25:19.628 --> 01:25:23.824 another Welsh poet. Owen sheers. Is everybody heard of Owen b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9525-2 01:25:23.824 --> 01:25:26.482 Sheers? He's very well known his son. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9531-0 01:25:28.552 --> 01:25:30.192 He was everywhere a few years ago. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9545-0 01:25:31.272 --> 01:25:35.492 Radio writing plays, novels, poetry very prolific. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9549-0 01:25:35.372 --> 01:25:37.362 Yeah, name's familiar, but. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9559-0 01:25:39.662 --> 01:25:42.330 Probably because he's been on telly and like you said, very b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9559-1 01:25:42.330 --> 01:25:42.552 busy. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9563-0 01:25:43.832 --> 01:25:44.992 Welsh literary figure. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9574-0 01:25:46.842 --> 01:25:50.342 This is actually about very different kind of place. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9580-0 01:25:53.002 --> 01:25:54.852 Ting about bourbon. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9587-0 01:25:55.692 --> 01:25:57.832 On Skype Dustrial landscape. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9591-0 01:26:00.802 --> 01:26:01.882 Still works. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9595-0 01:26:03.442 --> 01:26:04.782 Except it doesn't anymore. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9606-0 01:26:05.442 --> 01:26:08.992 A deserted mothership becalmed on the valley floor. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9624-0 01:26:09.812 --> 01:26:13.959 Sheep passing through the car park padlocks rusting on the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9624-1 01:26:13.959 --> 01:26:17.262 gates and birds nesting in a breathless fence. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9662-0 01:26:18.382 --> 01:26:23.314 The work happens elsewhere now, sometimes all day. Men pressing b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9662-1 01:26:23.314 --> 01:26:27.475 and dipping and the lifting bays, locking out elbows, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9662-2 01:26:27.475 --> 01:26:32.484 rolling a bicep up an armed and away or just kneeling and bowing b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9662-3 01:26:32.484 --> 01:26:35.412 to the benediction of a lateral pull. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9700-0 01:26:36.522 --> 01:26:41.978 Pumping iron under strip lights that take the strain of another b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9700-1 01:26:41.978 --> 01:26:46.838 afternoon shift with screwed tight eyes. Pneumatic sighs b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9700-2 01:26:46.838 --> 01:26:51.868 while the window still the rain rolling off the clouds and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9700-3 01:26:51.868 --> 01:26:54.852 sheets across a brushed metal sky. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9702-0 01:26:56.402 --> 01:26:56.952 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9714-0 01:26:59.362 --> 01:27:03.372 Rain comes up everywhere to the teacher. She was last direct. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9713-0 01:27:01.882 --> 01:27:03.192 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9716-0 01:27:04.772 --> 01:27:05.822 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9728-0 01:27:06.962 --> 01:27:10.682 Just take a moment to look at that for yourselves and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9732-0 01:27:12.522 --> 01:27:13.902 Make some comments. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9746-0 01:27:16.102 --> 01:27:19.122 Three different ways about right, sorry. Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9740-0 01:27:16.252 --> 01:27:16.922 Is clever. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9761-0 01:27:19.142 --> 01:27:22.508 And he's clever. You know, the top, the steel works, and that's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9761-1 01:27:22.508 --> 01:27:23.612 the name of the poem. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9767-0 01:27:24.132 --> 01:27:25.152 Yes, yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9782-0 01:27:24.572 --> 01:27:28.131 And then except it doesn't anymore. This. It's a great b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9782-1 01:27:28.131 --> 01:27:30.072 play, isn't it on words there. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9784-0 01:27:29.852 --> 01:27:30.942 Yeah, yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9788-0 01:27:31.912 --> 01:27:32.422 Great way to. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9791-0 01:27:34.962 --> 01:27:35.552 Deep running on. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9806-0 01:27:46.852 --> 01:27:50.144 Built around a very simple contrast then and now, which b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9806-1 01:27:50.144 --> 01:27:51.732 gives it plotted structure. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9809-0 01:27:53.202 --> 01:27:54.572 Two different places. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9812-0 01:27:57.942 --> 01:27:58.692 Liked by. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9816-0 01:27:59.702 --> 01:28:00.782 Dustrial imagery. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9826-0 01:28:07.482 --> 01:28:09.442 Any thoughts? Said he comments anybody. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9841-0 01:28:15.162 --> 01:28:19.549 I think it's clear in was is telling you about your, you know b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9841-1 01:28:19.549 --> 01:28:20.752 the then and now. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9844-0 01:28:22.982 --> 01:28:23.202 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9845-0 01:28:22.992 --> 01:28:23.472 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9848-0 01:28:24.532 --> 01:28:25.642 Confused me. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9852-0 01:28:26.982 --> 01:28:28.302 Who? Who is confused? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9886-0 01:28:28.752 --> 01:28:32.830 I'm yeah. Because it's saying about, you know, yeah, there's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9861-0 01:28:30.282 --> 01:28:30.752 Joe. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9886-1 01:28:32.830 --> 01:28:37.041 steel works, they're gone, and then it's the last three stands b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9886-2 01:28:37.041 --> 01:28:39.782 as, as you know, it's about the rolling. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9919-0 01:28:40.662 --> 01:28:44.400 Rolling up the biceps of the arms and, you know, pumping iron b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9919-1 01:28:44.400 --> 01:28:47.956 under stripped lights. So. So where are they then? If this b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9919-2 01:28:47.956 --> 01:28:51.272 still works, is closed. I don't get that they've gone. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9951-0 01:28:52.252 --> 01:28:55.975 I took it. They were. They'd all gone off to the gym because b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9951-1 01:28:55.975 --> 01:28:59.760 there was. There was no work for them now, but but they still b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9951-2 01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:02.812 have that work and they can that really physical. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9944-0 01:28:59.832 --> 01:29:00.622 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9953-0 01:29:03.292 --> 01:29:03.992 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9950-0 01:29:03.352 --> 01:29:03.702 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9957-0 01:29:05.572 --> 01:29:06.682 Workman like. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9962-0 01:29:09.252 --> 01:29:10.532 Yeah, that makes sense. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9970-0 01:29:10.072 --> 01:29:12.592 Relationship to their bodies and Yep. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9980-0 01:29:12.442 --> 01:29:16.092 To his continuing a routine in a different place. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9972-0 01:29:12.812 --> 01:29:13.042 We. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9987-0 01:29:16.202 --> 01:29:17.262 Yeah, yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9985-0 01:29:16.342 --> 01:29:16.942 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/9986-0 01:29:16.932 --> 01:29:17.302 Dinner. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10005-0 01:29:20.842 --> 01:29:23.967 Not that they'd have the money to go to the gym after they've b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10005-1 01:29:23.967 --> 01:29:25.832 been laid off at the steelworks, so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10012-0 01:29:26.622 --> 01:29:29.192 This is true. Yeah, true. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10020-0 01:29:35.002 --> 01:29:36.772 I would do allowed to argue with the parent. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10024-0 01:29:37.412 --> 01:29:38.312 It didn't help. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10029-0 01:29:38.052 --> 01:29:40.062 What do you think the research is sound? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10042-0 01:29:41.542 --> 01:29:44.952 And that that the 1st 3 verses of that MIC. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10035-0 01:29:41.842 --> 01:29:42.142 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10077-0 01:29:46.762 --> 01:29:50.835 You know, sort of makes sense to me, but I didn't. I didn't get b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10077-1 01:29:50.835 --> 01:29:54.717 that. That what did you call that? The vault. Is it where it b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10065-0 01:29:52.562 --> 01:29:53.372 Fine. OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10077-2 01:29:54.717 --> 01:29:57.072 changes and becomes somewhere other? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10081-0 01:29:56.342 --> 01:29:57.732 The change looking at. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10080-0 01:29:57.522 --> 01:29:57.872 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10087-0 01:30:00.272 --> 01:30:01.402 Work happens else. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10089-0 01:30:02.042 --> 01:30:02.582 Explain that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10108-0 01:30:05.622 --> 01:30:11.243 I gotta say, like the last line, a brushed metal sky. If I wrote b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10100-0 01:30:08.262 --> 01:30:08.772 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10108-1 01:30:11.243 --> 01:30:13.492 that, I'd be like, really. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10117-0 01:30:14.802 --> 01:30:16.862 Thinking, Oh my God, this is too much of a cliche. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10125-0 01:30:19.172 --> 01:30:21.282 I would sit there and absolutely agonize. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10155-0 01:30:21.862 --> 01:30:26.839 I I I agree that there is a I mean there is a a certain sort b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10155-1 01:30:26.839 --> 01:30:31.898 of six form feeling to bits of this. I would say it's it's it b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10155-2 01:30:31.898 --> 01:30:32.632 is quite. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10173-0 01:30:33.732 --> 01:30:36.839 It doesn't have the depth, does it? He's he's no order and at b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10173-1 01:30:36.839 --> 01:30:37.942 least not in this one. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10177-0 01:30:38.472 --> 01:30:40.162 So agree with you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10201-0 01:30:40.942 --> 01:30:44.635 But then talking about the steel works, you know the brushed b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10201-1 01:30:44.635 --> 01:30:48.388 metal bringing that back in and then perhaps that's something b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10201-2 01:30:48.388 --> 01:30:48.872 that he. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10209-0 01:30:50.042 --> 01:30:53.152 Feels quite strongly feel lived near the still works. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10211-0 01:30:53.862 --> 01:30:54.292 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10227-0 01:30:54.382 --> 01:30:58.231 Yeah, it's just a. It's a bit too Pat, isn't it? I think it's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10217-0 01:30:55.182 --> 01:30:55.522 So. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10227-1 01:30:58.231 --> 01:30:58.542 it's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10237-0 01:31:00.142 --> 01:31:02.452 Agree it is a bit formulaic. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10245-0 01:31:03.192 --> 01:31:04.982 I thought it was a good example of of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10261-0 01:31:05.982 --> 01:31:10.300 Just a simple way of contrasting spaces and also a poem that was b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10261-1 01:31:10.300 --> 01:31:10.632 more. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10273-0 01:31:11.642 --> 01:31:16.272 Outward orientated and making social comment talking about. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10279-0 01:31:16.962 --> 01:31:18.792 Society rather than self. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10283-0 01:31:20.232 --> 01:31:20.732 I mean. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10284-0 01:31:20.602 --> 01:31:21.052 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10289-0 01:31:21.562 --> 01:31:22.492 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10367-0 01:31:21.792 --> 01:31:25.393 I I haven't. I haven't seen that. We were talking about a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10367-1 01:31:25.393 --> 01:31:29.367 gym for the second part. I was just thinking there's, you know, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10367-2 01:31:29.367 --> 01:31:33.093 this happening in China or somewhere that this is still, it b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10367-3 01:31:33.093 --> 01:31:37.066 makes it actually is makes more sense that it is a gym. So he's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10367-4 01:31:37.066 --> 01:31:40.916 contrasting what used to be the flowering of the of the youth b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10367-5 01:31:40.916 --> 01:31:44.517 when they would be working in the factory and now they're b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10367-6 01:31:44.517 --> 01:31:48.367 perhaps pointlessly in a gym paying to do something that they b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10367-7 01:31:48.367 --> 01:31:51.782 would have been paid to do previously. So that that's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10384-0 01:31:51.962 --> 01:31:55.297 Yeah, I think that's quite, quite strong. I do like sheep b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10384-1 01:31:55.297 --> 01:31:57.942 passing through the car park, you know, with. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10415-0 01:31:58.822 --> 01:32:02.424 We can't stop sheep passing through anything in Wales, can b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10415-1 01:32:02.424 --> 01:32:06.147 we? But yeah, you you can see that the the abandoned Ness of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10415-2 01:32:06.147 --> 01:32:09.810 it, the sheep and the padlocks rusting. But yeah, on on the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10415-3 01:32:09.810 --> 01:32:11.092 whole, it's it's not. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10420-0 01:32:13.242 --> 01:32:13.712 What? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10428-0 01:32:13.412 --> 01:32:15.522 It doesn't have a great deal of depth for me. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10433-0 01:32:15.442 --> 01:32:16.652 No, it doesn't, no. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10455-0 01:32:16.202 --> 01:32:20.025 I I would be quite happy to just see the first three lines and I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10455-1 01:32:20.025 --> 01:32:23.907 think it would be a lot stronger if you just left everything else b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10455-2 01:32:23.907 --> 01:32:24.142 out. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10463-0 01:32:24.862 --> 01:32:27.152 And just literally gone with the first stanza. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10482-0 01:32:28.372 --> 01:32:31.202 I'm blessed it like another tumbleweeds. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10475-0 01:32:28.382 --> 01:32:29.292 That's interesting. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10514-0 01:32:32.352 --> 01:32:36.144 Yeah, yeah. Almost like a haiku, but a haiku. That's that's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10493-0 01:32:35.372 --> 01:32:35.822 Hmm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10514-1 01:32:36.144 --> 01:32:40.126 stuck. That isn't going into the future to change because it's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10514-2 01:32:40.126 --> 01:32:41.832 about something that can't. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10525-0 01:32:42.842 --> 01:32:45.780 Yeah, I think I think you probably would have been a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10525-1 01:32:45.780 --> 01:32:46.612 stronger piece. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10532-0 01:32:47.332 --> 01:32:49.092 If you just left it really short. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10537-0 01:32:51.132 --> 01:32:51.902 For me anyway. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10558-0 01:32:51.982 --> 01:32:56.274 She just emphasizing the steel works because it all relates to, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10558-1 01:32:56.274 --> 01:32:58.822 you know, like the brushed metal sky. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10563-0 01:32:59.302 --> 01:33:00.292 Yeah, yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10592-0 01:32:59.772 --> 01:33:04.850 Still rolling the clouds in, you know, rolling off the clouds in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10592-1 01:33:04.850 --> 01:33:09.068 sheets. It's all about the metal, isn't there? In the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10585-0 01:33:08.462 --> 01:33:08.672 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10592-2 01:33:09.068 --> 01:33:10.162 steel? Whoops. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10594-0 01:33:11.312 --> 01:33:11.792 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10600-0 01:33:12.892 --> 01:33:15.952 I think it's just basically saying what it is. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10603-0 01:33:17.132 --> 01:33:17.522 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10634-0 01:33:17.652 --> 01:33:22.418 Myself, I I I quite like the brush, metal sky. I could see a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10634-1 01:33:22.418 --> 01:33:27.262 rusty sky. You know, I I don't know. Perhaps. No, that's just b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10634-2 01:33:27.262 --> 01:33:28.122 my opinion. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10633-0 01:33:28.582 --> 01:33:28.932 Hmm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10663-0 01:33:30.042 --> 01:33:33.689 There's a lot of just stalgia in that isn't there in that. And I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10648-0 01:33:32.562 --> 01:33:32.752 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10663-1 01:33:33.689 --> 01:33:36.662 think in that that image in the context of the poem. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10682-0 01:33:35.242 --> 01:33:39.766 I guess maybe steel workers would appreciate it more having b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10682-1 01:33:39.766 --> 01:33:44.592 worked in their environment and knowing the loss of their jobs. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10685-0 01:33:45.382 --> 01:33:45.772 Hmm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10695-0 01:33:45.782 --> 01:33:48.452 You know, and the camaraderie. It's like the pets isn't a. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10702-0 01:33:49.102 --> 01:33:51.012 You know where you going together. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10718-0 01:33:51.752 --> 01:33:54.363 Because it's not a, it's not a very pleasant environment that b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10718-1 01:33:54.363 --> 01:33:56.132 we're in, but they loved it all the same. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10729-0 01:33:58.402 --> 01:34:02.142 I said you went to then is he writing for his audience? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10732-0 01:34:03.802 --> 01:34:04.792 Steel workers. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10743-0 01:34:05.262 --> 01:34:09.402 Yeah, that's. I mean he's he's waiting for with a certain. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10735-0 01:34:05.842 --> 01:34:06.092 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10760-0 01:34:10.302 --> 01:34:14.819 Certain reader or a certain audience in mind, when he's when b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10760-1 01:34:14.819 --> 01:34:18.152 he's writing it, because of course that can. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10769-0 01:34:19.002 --> 01:34:21.832 Affect then how how you're writing? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10772-0 01:34:22.542 --> 01:34:23.602 Does develop? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10774-0 01:34:24.652 --> 01:34:25.132 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10782-0 01:34:26.212 --> 01:34:26.582 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10788-0 01:34:26.222 --> 01:34:30.134 Said he's probably writing for the general, fairly literate b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10788-1 01:34:30.134 --> 01:34:31.112 poetry reading. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10790-0 01:34:32.242 --> 01:34:33.032 Audience. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10792-0 01:34:33.612 --> 01:34:33.992 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10796-0 01:34:34.342 --> 01:34:35.562 I to be polished. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10801-0 01:34:36.322 --> 01:34:37.712 But social history? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10809-0 01:34:39.102 --> 01:34:41.172 But it is quite specific, isn't it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10827-0 01:34:42.762 --> 01:34:46.517 And I think it's just saying why it is. I just felt it was a very b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10827-1 01:34:46.517 --> 01:34:47.882 straightforward kind of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10829-0 01:34:48.512 --> 01:34:48.862 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10834-0 01:34:49.242 --> 01:34:50.322 Pulling myself. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10846-0 01:34:50.582 --> 01:34:53.495 Yeah. Yeah. So it's a very different approach to the other b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10846-1 01:34:53.495 --> 01:34:54.532 ones we've looked at. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10848-0 01:34:55.002 --> 01:34:55.482 Hmm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10873-0 01:34:57.642 --> 01:35:01.176 It's almost like a conversation as well. You could see someone b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10873-1 01:35:01.176 --> 01:35:04.429 talking like that in a pub creative person that you know, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10873-2 01:35:04.429 --> 01:35:07.739 don't dispute, you know, because it's it's, you know, very b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10873-3 01:35:07.739 --> 01:35:08.412 descriptive. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10892-0 01:35:09.062 --> 01:35:12.681 With the imagery but reminiscing, you could see boys b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10892-1 01:35:12.681 --> 01:35:16.642 reminiscing not at the bar where they were pubs and bars. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10894-0 01:35:17.992 --> 01:35:18.542 There we go. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10909-0 01:35:20.682 --> 01:35:24.052 You know, so in what they did and what they do now and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10913-0 01:35:25.462 --> 01:35:25.862 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10935-0 01:35:25.742 --> 01:35:29.814 But he's not reminiscing, is he that if the description is of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10935-1 01:35:29.814 --> 01:35:33.032 nowadays people are in the gym, then that's not. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10930-0 01:35:30.432 --> 01:35:30.862 No. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10954-0 01:35:33.742 --> 01:35:37.169 Well, it is still attractive, but you're now you know what b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10942-0 01:35:33.772 --> 01:35:34.802 That's that's saying. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10954-1 01:35:37.169 --> 01:35:39.202 they used to do, what they do now. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10957-0 01:35:39.902 --> 01:35:40.352 Don't know. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10969-0 01:35:41.472 --> 01:35:45.021 I don't. I don't think he's being very positive about the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10969-1 01:35:45.021 --> 01:35:46.122 people in the gym. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10978-0 01:35:47.362 --> 01:35:49.872 Well, no, he's just stating facts, isn't he? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10987-0 01:35:52.492 --> 01:35:55.242 Do you find him a little patronising? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10984-0 01:35:52.762 --> 01:35:53.162 Not just. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10989-0 01:35:59.172 --> 01:35:59.762 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/10997-0 01:36:03.992 --> 01:36:06.182 I don't always how you look at it really, isn't it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11025-0 01:36:10.502 --> 01:36:14.923 I just like you know, I just think, yes, you stay. You're b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11025-1 01:36:14.923 --> 01:36:18.582 saying it as it is myself in, in a poetic form. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11037-0 01:36:25.432 --> 01:36:28.182 I think they probably use something a bit Snooty about b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11037-1 01:36:28.182 --> 01:36:28.382 the. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11065-0 01:36:29.122 --> 01:36:33.142 They're not. They're not pumping eye and they're pumping eye and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11065-1 01:36:33.142 --> 01:36:37.039 kind of thing and it's or maybe it's just that it's a bit glib b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11065-2 01:36:37.039 --> 01:36:38.462 to draw that as though. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11081-0 01:36:39.132 --> 01:36:42.128 I mean, it's not that it's not that everyone who ever worked in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11081-1 01:36:42.128 --> 01:36:44.562 the steel works now spends all day in the gym, but. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11096-0 01:36:45.822 --> 01:36:49.004 There, there is a certain sort of they're doing the wrong kind b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11096-1 01:36:49.004 --> 01:36:49.762 of manual work. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11103-0 01:36:51.012 --> 01:36:53.952 Feeling to it, maybe a bit for me. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11112-0 01:36:55.152 --> 01:36:57.702 But this is this is possibly a danger of of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11127-0 01:37:00.642 --> 01:37:04.487 Such kind of writing that's trying to make a social point b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11127-1 01:37:04.487 --> 01:37:04.752 and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11134-0 01:37:05.602 --> 01:37:08.232 Do not necessarily writing from your own experience. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11140-0 01:37:10.602 --> 01:37:12.872 Coming in at all to deeper level. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11148-0 01:37:17.172 --> 01:37:19.202 You feel like he's done a bit of research, don't you? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11156-0 01:37:23.272 --> 01:37:24.202 Messed it up a little. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11155-0 01:37:23.592 --> 01:37:24.422 Or has he? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11177-0 01:37:25.192 --> 01:37:30.342 Has he done any research? I I think I think all of us could b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11162-0 01:37:25.222 --> 01:37:25.722 See. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11177-1 01:37:30.342 --> 01:37:34.462 probably write that without doing the research. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11183-0 01:37:35.862 --> 01:37:39.012 If you know what I mean, there's nothing. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11189-0 01:37:40.362 --> 01:37:41.952 In there, that is. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11191-0 01:37:44.172 --> 01:37:44.442 That. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11199-0 01:37:45.202 --> 01:37:47.592 That we couldn't work out if you see what I mean. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11211-0 01:37:48.452 --> 01:37:51.859 Well, although you had to point out that they were in in the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11211-1 01:37:51.859 --> 01:37:52.362 gym. But. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11219-0 01:37:53.122 --> 01:37:56.132 And you know all of those things are. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11240-0 01:37:58.752 --> 01:38:02.246 If you ask me to write about the steel works or something, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11240-1 01:38:02.246 --> 01:38:05.562 perhaps I would write something quite similar in a way. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11250-0 01:38:06.902 --> 01:38:10.252 Without doing any research, it's just what what you know. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11263-0 01:38:11.412 --> 01:38:15.046 Yeah. And that's why I I think it's conversation piece, isn't b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11263-1 01:38:15.046 --> 01:38:15.222 it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11272-0 01:38:16.352 --> 01:38:18.462 They signed fussy, particularly in. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11275-0 01:38:20.192 --> 01:38:20.732 You know. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11281-0 01:38:21.432 --> 01:38:23.782 So people might discuss things. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11290-0 01:38:24.592 --> 01:38:27.622 In brief to one another, steel workers. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11374-0 01:38:28.472 --> 01:38:32.520 I I I I don't know. I think that things like the kneeling and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11374-1 01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:36.502 bowing to the benediction of a lateral pull, there's there's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11374-2 01:38:36.502 --> 01:38:40.484 certainly something as there's a sneer behind that. And also b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11321-0 01:38:39.662 --> 01:38:40.002 Well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11374-3 01:38:40.484 --> 01:38:44.532 pumping iron under strip lights. I myself like my whole house b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11374-4 01:38:44.532 --> 01:38:48.710 with her and LED's because I'm so ecofriendly. That's what that b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11374-5 01:38:48.710 --> 01:38:52.627 feels like to me. But then that's possibly what I read into b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11358-0 01:38:51.522 --> 01:38:51.762 Hmm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11374-6 01:38:52.627 --> 01:38:56.022 Owen Sheers, cause my familiarity with him is more. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11380-0 01:38:56.792 --> 01:38:57.692 To do with that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11398-0 01:38:58.352 --> 01:39:02.216 I don't read his work, but he's he's he's around the area kind b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11398-1 01:39:02.216 --> 01:39:03.382 of thing I live in. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11418-0 01:39:03.152 --> 01:39:07.716 Yeah, yeah, I I you know, I don't think he's like you say b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11418-1 01:39:07.716 --> 01:39:11.572 he's no Orden. He's a very accessible point and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11422-0 01:39:14.822 --> 01:39:15.202 But. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11436-0 01:39:18.622 --> 01:39:20.432 Still full at church. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11469-0 01:39:18.842 --> 01:39:22.892 Yeah, I think GCSE somebody saying ohh the clouds in sheets, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11469-1 01:39:22.892 --> 01:39:26.743 that's like you get steel in sheets, the brush metal sky, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11469-2 01:39:26.743 --> 01:39:29.332 that's about steel, isn't it? Yes, no. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11474-0 01:39:28.122 --> 01:39:32.088 Yeah, well, that's what I mean. It's very straightforward kind b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11474-1 01:39:32.088 --> 01:39:32.592 of poem. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11488-0 01:39:36.702 --> 01:39:39.610 So obviously, you know he's created a a talking point, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11488-1 01:39:39.610 --> 01:39:40.192 doesn't he? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11495-0 01:39:42.462 --> 01:39:43.592 Yes, he has a. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11496-0 01:39:43.072 --> 01:39:44.412 Except for discussion. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11500-0 01:39:44.852 --> 01:39:46.442 Good, good, good. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11506-0 01:39:47.742 --> 01:39:49.512 You know, he's not everyone's cup of tea. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11508-0 01:39:50.022 --> 01:39:50.502 He. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11522-0 01:39:52.502 --> 01:39:55.972 Have you got the stamina to look at another poem right now? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11524-0 01:39:56.852 --> 01:39:57.322 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11532-0 01:39:57.662 --> 01:40:00.811 Yeah, something completely different and very different b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11532-1 01:40:00.811 --> 01:40:01.092 mode. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11537-0 01:40:02.432 --> 01:40:03.682 Moving along swiftly. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11538-0 01:40:04.242 --> 01:40:04.672 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11547-0 01:40:06.212 --> 01:40:09.422 Good. This is the good discussion actually, so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11550-0 01:40:10.422 --> 01:40:11.272 This one. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11553-0 01:40:12.142 --> 01:40:13.062 Very different. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11569-0 01:40:20.642 --> 01:40:23.671 This goes over 2 slides, so I'll have to break it slightly in the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11569-1 01:40:23.671 --> 01:40:23.992 middle. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11592-0 01:40:24.962 --> 01:40:30.840 Umm, so this is by a part called Erica Meitner, who was from b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11592-1 01:40:30.840 --> 01:40:35.562 German Jewish family but brought up in New York. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11594-0 01:40:36.392 --> 01:40:36.942 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11604-0 01:40:37.972 --> 01:40:41.612 Has lived in in North America and Canada. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11613-0 01:40:42.892 --> 01:40:45.485 And I think this is very different because I think this b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11613-1 01:40:45.485 --> 01:40:45.902 is about. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11618-0 01:40:45.992 --> 01:40:48.432 I'm using places. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11623-0 01:40:48.602 --> 01:40:51.762 Umm, what I could psychodrama so it's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11659-0 01:40:52.622 --> 01:40:56.538 I think you've using place to talk about your own body and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11659-1 01:40:56.538 --> 01:41:00.521 your own mind and your own emotional states. Something that b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11659-2 01:41:00.521 --> 01:41:04.504 actually silver we think of Sylvia Plath is being very much b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11659-3 01:41:04.504 --> 01:41:05.832 like kind of a poet. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11662-0 01:41:07.432 --> 01:41:08.112 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11704-0 01:41:08.812 --> 01:41:13.502 It's what I call a seig poems. So one line and one image just b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11704-1 01:41:13.502 --> 01:41:18.419 kind of melts into another, and it's not necessarily following a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11704-2 01:41:18.419 --> 01:41:22.882 logical order, it's it's formal kind of dream logic where. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11730-0 01:41:25.722 --> 01:41:29.917 I like a trail of association, but with certain images cropping b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11730-1 01:41:29.917 --> 01:41:34.113 up, so I just said it's not 1 to try and struggle with the with b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11730-2 01:41:34.113 --> 01:41:35.752 the meaning too much but. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11732-0 01:41:38.582 --> 01:41:39.152 See what? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11747-0 01:41:40.412 --> 01:41:45.062 What you yourself take it, but it very much foregrounds place b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11747-1 01:41:45.062 --> 01:41:47.012 as a way of talking about. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11764-0 01:41:47.772 --> 01:41:52.004 Emotional states, I think. OK, so. So I read this one to you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11764-1 01:41:52.004 --> 01:41:54.052 If I got a volunteer for this. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11786-0 01:41:57.572 --> 01:42:00.454 I like to hear you read. Whilst it's why, it's why I come to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11772-0 01:41:58.022 --> 01:41:58.612 Sorry. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11782-0 01:42:00.012 --> 01:42:00.402 Alright. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11786-1 01:42:00.454 --> 01:42:01.682 these things getting yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11788-0 01:42:03.652 --> 01:42:04.482 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11793-0 01:42:05.332 --> 01:42:06.432 North Slope borough. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11817-0 01:42:07.612 --> 01:42:12.665 My heart is an Alaskan Village fishing village during whaling b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11817-1 01:42:12.665 --> 01:42:17.636 season, which is to say that everyone is down by the thawing b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11817-2 01:42:17.636 --> 01:42:17.962 sea. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11857-0 01:42:18.772 --> 01:42:23.740 The huts on stilts are empty and my heart is a harpoon. A b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11857-1 01:42:23.740 --> 01:42:29.051 homemade velvetine Parker Hood lined with Wolverine. My mouth b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11857-2 01:42:29.051 --> 01:42:34.105 has no zipper, which helps me remember how to say oh oh, I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11857-3 01:42:34.105 --> 01:42:34.962 miss home. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11876-0 01:42:35.992 --> 01:42:40.171 When I close my eyes, I see the Afd trains, twin headlights b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11876-1 01:42:40.171 --> 01:42:41.982 blooming into the station. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11901-0 01:42:43.012 --> 01:42:47.406 When I close my eyes, it's warm. Wind sweeps hair from my face b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11901-1 01:42:47.406 --> 01:42:51.452 the way my grandmother did with her hands to see my eyes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11926-0 01:42:52.412 --> 01:42:56.485 Home is the place with plastic slip covers on the couch. Home b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11926-1 01:42:56.485 --> 01:43:00.362 is the place with heavy brown shoes. Mr. Lynd at the door. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11938-0 01:43:01.692 --> 01:43:06.282 When I close my eyes, I look for an entryway into the earth. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11944-0 01:43:06.942 --> 01:43:08.512 A dream of a porcupine. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11963-0 01:43:09.202 --> 01:43:13.899 So I can't record if I've ever seen one. I dream of my dead b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/11963-1 01:43:13.899 --> 01:43:17.892 friend who has no voice but tells me to slow down. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12012-0 01:43:18.822 --> 01:43:23.086 We walked together to the neighbourhood bar. It is summer, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12012-1 01:43:23.086 --> 01:43:27.351 it is night. I have no choice. In my dream. My dead friend b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12012-2 01:43:27.351 --> 01:43:31.398 gives me a fish. I roll it up like a newspaper. I put a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12012-3 01:43:31.398 --> 01:43:35.012 toothpick in it and we walked slowly to Brooklyn. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12020-0 01:43:35.862 --> 01:43:39.372 My words don't mean anything because right now. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12045-0 01:43:40.092 --> 01:43:44.808 My son is coughing in another room. I can hear him through the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12045-1 01:43:44.808 --> 01:43:48.402 walls. He sits up in his crib and waits for me. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12121-0 01:43:49.182 --> 01:43:53.073 The world is a hollow white door, like something gentle. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12121-1 01:43:53.073 --> 01:43:57.305 Sorry. When I close my eyes, it spins like a dime on tile. It b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12121-2 01:43:57.305 --> 01:44:01.401 spins like something gentle, knocked off the table. One day b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12121-3 01:44:01.401 --> 01:44:05.428 my heart will ascend from the subway tunnel. It will burst b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12121-4 01:44:05.428 --> 01:44:09.592 into daylight, asked the Court Street station. My heart is a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12121-5 01:44:09.592 --> 01:44:14.029 chainsaw and owl. Boring through leather. My heart is old school b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12121-6 01:44:14.029 --> 01:44:18.193 graffiti, a A tag that ziggs or metal, gets applause when it b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12121-7 01:44:18.193 --> 01:44:20.582 pulls into the station. It's that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12124-0 01:44:20.662 --> 01:44:21.322 Uplifting. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12133-0 01:44:22.112 --> 01:44:24.752 Some days the world is too lonely. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12146-0 01:44:25.452 --> 01:44:31.105 My heart wants to play chess with another heart inside my b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12146-1 01:44:31.105 --> 01:44:31.592 body. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12149-0 01:44:33.622 --> 01:44:34.092 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12158-0 01:44:35.882 --> 01:44:38.072 Couldn't be further from our end. She is. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12164-0 01:44:40.572 --> 01:44:42.242 Yes, a lot more feeling going on. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12171-0 01:44:42.902 --> 01:44:44.872 They're very mind what I said is a little. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12183-0 01:44:45.402 --> 01:44:47.322 Ohh, I've lost him. We've gone. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12181-0 01:44:45.992 --> 01:44:46.962 She's pregnant. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12187-0 01:44:50.492 --> 01:44:51.052 Tell me. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12192-0 01:44:50.762 --> 01:44:52.522 Can you not see? Yeah, you've got it. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12199-0 01:44:52.692 --> 01:44:54.252 I'm back. Yes, thank you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12202-0 01:44:53.892 --> 01:44:56.842 Yeah, alright. OK. So. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12213-0 01:44:57.742 --> 01:45:02.006 When you're ready, impressions of this poem, how it's using b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12213-1 01:45:02.006 --> 01:45:02.432 place. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12216-0 01:45:13.702 --> 01:45:14.082 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12221-0 01:45:14.572 --> 01:45:15.632 Any immediate thought? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12234-0 01:45:21.752 --> 01:45:23.692 It's quite emotional, isn't it going, Joe? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12228-0 01:45:21.832 --> 01:45:22.832 It kind of takes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12244-0 01:45:23.752 --> 01:45:25.692 Sorry, he's not. He's starting first. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12239-0 01:45:24.302 --> 01:45:24.632 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12246-0 01:45:26.532 --> 01:45:27.012 Joe. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12255-0 01:45:26.952 --> 01:45:31.372 And it kind of takes you from. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12258-0 01:45:32.382 --> 01:45:33.322 Something. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12274-0 01:45:35.482 --> 01:45:39.714 I'm trying to I think I've I've to phrase it from something b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12274-1 01:45:39.714 --> 01:45:40.772 quite personal. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12280-0 01:45:41.572 --> 01:45:43.212 Kind of round to. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12304-0 01:45:44.332 --> 01:45:47.741 From different people like like a dead friend and then also b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12304-1 01:45:47.741 --> 01:45:51.434 there's more immediate. You kind of get the wistfulness and then b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12304-2 01:45:51.434 --> 01:45:54.332 the immediacy of of a sudden coughing in the room. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12313-0 01:45:55.232 --> 01:45:57.932 And it kind of really brings you back and forth. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12321-0 01:45:59.572 --> 01:46:01.842 In that kind of sense of kind of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12331-0 01:46:03.172 --> 01:46:05.652 The sense of time within the poem. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12344-0 01:46:07.172 --> 01:46:10.579 It's that kind of, yeah, just the wistfulness to the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12344-1 01:46:10.579 --> 01:46:11.222 immediacy. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12349-0 01:46:12.602 --> 01:46:13.902 Which I thought was interesting. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12353-0 01:46:14.752 --> 01:46:15.382 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12354-0 01:46:14.802 --> 01:46:15.592 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12359-0 01:46:16.322 --> 01:46:17.712 Very linked to emotion. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12361-0 01:46:18.312 --> 01:46:18.812 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12370-0 01:46:19.032 --> 01:46:22.062 It's all in the mind. It's talking about feelings and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12374-0 01:46:22.662 --> 01:46:23.172 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12373-0 01:46:22.672 --> 01:46:22.922 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12382-0 01:46:24.132 --> 01:46:26.152 The emotional meanings of memories, isn't it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12386-0 01:46:26.212 --> 01:46:26.792 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12395-0 01:46:27.722 --> 01:46:29.592 I love, I love the bit about some. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12401-0 01:46:31.002 --> 01:46:32.882 We're about the grandmother. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12418-0 01:46:34.442 --> 01:46:37.893 Through the hair out of her eyes. With the way you know the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12418-1 01:46:37.893 --> 01:46:41.402 way her grandmother did. That's very. That's very evocative. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12422-0 01:46:41.952 --> 01:46:42.692 Twist. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12447-0 01:46:44.432 --> 01:46:47.421 So that point you've been inside the mind of the poet, haven't b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12447-1 01:46:47.421 --> 01:46:50.267 you? But then suddenly you're outside and you're looking in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12447-2 01:46:50.267 --> 01:46:52.212 with the grandmother. Just for a moment. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12444-0 01:46:50.842 --> 01:46:51.152 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12449-0 01:46:52.832 --> 01:46:53.312 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12452-0 01:46:55.262 --> 01:46:56.052 From the depths. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12528-0 01:46:59.552 --> 01:47:03.615 For me, it felt like someone who's who's, you know, not not b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12460-0 01:46:59.952 --> 01:47:00.302 Is it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12528-1 01:47:03.615 --> 01:47:07.949 happy, is feeling isolated and lonely. Now it makes me remember b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12528-2 01:47:07.949 --> 01:47:12.351 the times when your children are little and they take up so much b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12528-3 01:47:12.351 --> 01:47:16.482 of your your time and emotion. But they're also quite, quite b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12528-4 01:47:16.482 --> 01:47:20.680 boring. And it's it's it's it's arduous, isn't it? And you're b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12528-5 01:47:20.680 --> 01:47:24.676 you're chained and isolated. So it's remembering different b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12528-6 01:47:24.676 --> 01:47:25.082 times. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12551-0 01:47:27.012 --> 01:47:30.693 Perhaps that that freedom and happiness of of childhood, or at b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12551-1 01:47:30.693 --> 01:47:34.492 least the the immediacy and the knowing your place in the world. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12596-0 01:47:35.152 --> 01:47:40.204 Umm and it's mixing a the like the the rural or seaside or b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12596-1 01:47:40.204 --> 01:47:45.428 whatever back background with sounds like I'm I I don't know b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12596-2 01:47:45.428 --> 01:47:50.822 the references were in New York or something. Now they're in a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12596-3 01:47:50.822 --> 01:47:55.532 city anyway with headlights blooming into the station. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12596-4 01:47:55.532 --> 01:47:56.902 Fantastic image. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12626-0 01:47:58.702 --> 01:48:02.931 And the way that you're you're present and you're past mingles, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12626-1 01:48:02.931 --> 01:48:07.029 so you could be standing in a station being blown by a train. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12626-2 01:48:07.029 --> 01:48:09.672 And that feels like a childhood memory. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12627-0 01:48:10.502 --> 01:48:10.902 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12631-0 01:48:11.312 --> 01:48:12.682 So it's it is quite. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12679-0 01:48:13.312 --> 01:48:16.867 It's it's. It's in the dream. Like stuff. The I dream of a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12679-1 01:48:16.867 --> 01:48:20.724 porcupine, but I don't know if I've ever seen one and that kind b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12655-0 01:48:19.622 --> 01:48:19.992 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12679-2 01:48:20.724 --> 01:48:24.098 of thing. It's all that confusion of in your head where b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12679-3 01:48:24.098 --> 01:48:27.895 things go over and over around and you know you you can't have b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12679-4 01:48:27.895 --> 01:48:29.582 one straight linear thought. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12695-0 01:48:31.352 --> 01:48:33.999 I think that's what I really like the bit about me the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12695-1 01:48:33.999 --> 01:48:34.962 rolling up the fish. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12708-0 01:48:35.772 --> 01:48:38.942 Because streams are so surreal, like quite like the fact that b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12708-1 01:48:38.942 --> 01:48:39.862 she's put that in. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12716-0 01:48:40.482 --> 01:48:43.282 That that moment of real surrealness. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12726-0 01:48:44.002 --> 01:48:47.452 And within the within the memories. So. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12735-0 01:48:48.192 --> 01:48:49.952 Yeah, I quite like that, but kind of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12742-0 01:48:50.782 --> 01:48:52.852 Takes you away and then comes back again. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12769-0 01:48:58.922 --> 01:49:02.959 Although it's very fluid and and like you say, it's moving b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12769-1 01:49:02.959 --> 01:49:06.928 through different times and memories and emotions and the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12769-2 01:49:06.928 --> 01:49:10.212 very dreamlike way it does this dream thing of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12771-0 01:49:11.172 --> 01:49:11.812 Taking. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12803-0 01:49:12.062 --> 01:49:16.373 Umm, I said. We're trying to drive home a message or or or b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12803-1 01:49:16.373 --> 01:49:20.684 kind of a really strong. What's the the emotional heart of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12803-2 01:49:20.684 --> 01:49:24.264 something by repeating a particular image but in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12803-3 01:49:24.264 --> 01:49:25.652 different contexts. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12822-0 01:49:26.302 --> 01:49:30.341 Umm, and that's to do with essentially the heart feeling b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12822-1 01:49:30.341 --> 01:49:34.592 pierced. And so she begins by saying my heart is a harpoon. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12825-0 01:49:36.452 --> 01:49:37.762 And then we get. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12841-0 01:49:42.772 --> 01:49:47.304 The piercing of kind of the piercing headlights blew me into b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12841-1 01:49:47.304 --> 01:49:48.642 the station. Just. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12854-0 01:49:51.762 --> 01:49:56.866 And then later on we get the the fish being pierced by a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12854-1 01:49:56.866 --> 01:49:57.762 toothpick. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12856-0 01:49:59.452 --> 01:49:59.782 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12860-0 01:50:00.222 --> 01:50:02.092 And then final section. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12866-0 01:50:05.072 --> 01:50:06.772 But outboard through letter. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12871-0 01:50:08.242 --> 01:50:09.822 So all the time she's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12874-0 01:50:10.872 --> 01:50:11.482 As it were. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12889-0 01:50:12.802 --> 01:50:17.027 Building on on that, that that core image and and taking us b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12889-1 01:50:17.027 --> 01:50:17.942 back to that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12896-0 01:50:18.672 --> 01:50:21.422 That kind of painful piercing. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12899-0 01:50:22.812 --> 01:50:23.462 And just. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12903-0 01:50:24.882 --> 01:50:25.842 Very interesting. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12912-0 01:50:27.172 --> 01:50:28.272 What? What do you mean? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12922-0 01:50:27.472 --> 01:50:30.592 OK, OK, keeping comes into that as well, isn't it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12931-0 01:50:29.752 --> 01:50:33.666 Ohh talk translator. Not to mention yes it exactly it does, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12931-1 01:50:33.666 --> 01:50:33.992 yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12935-0 01:50:35.872 --> 01:50:36.642 So it's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12937-0 01:50:36.782 --> 01:50:37.512 Ohm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12961-0 01:50:40.772 --> 01:50:44.249 I think it could be a different way to write it poem to follow b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12961-1 01:50:44.249 --> 01:50:47.506 the way the same conscious the unconscious works at dreams b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12961-2 01:50:47.506 --> 01:50:47.782 work. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12963-0 01:50:48.542 --> 01:50:48.892 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12977-0 01:50:50.712 --> 01:50:54.956 How they they do have a kind of narrative logic and a meaning to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12977-1 01:50:54.956 --> 01:50:55.282 them. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12979-0 01:50:56.042 --> 01:50:56.372 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/12988-0 01:50:56.732 --> 01:50:59.892 That's that's embedded in the imagery and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13008-0 01:51:00.702 --> 01:51:04.118 And boundaries between time zones and boundaries between b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13008-1 01:51:04.118 --> 01:51:07.654 place, so dissolved and run together, which is fascinating b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13008-2 01:51:07.654 --> 01:51:09.152 thing to experiment with. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13022-0 01:51:11.502 --> 01:51:14.208 Would you make in my? Ohh. Sorry. Someone wanted to say. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13022-1 01:51:14.208 --> 01:51:15.252 Heard of breath? Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13028-0 01:51:16.122 --> 01:51:17.402 Somebody about to say something? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13039-0 01:51:18.102 --> 01:51:21.516 Yeah. I just, just the physically, the way it's written b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13039-1 01:51:21.516 --> 01:51:21.882 isn't. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13046-0 01:51:22.662 --> 01:51:25.452 Normally poet, you know like it like you know. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13051-0 01:51:27.282 --> 01:51:29.212 The way it's written down doesn't. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13066-0 01:51:30.652 --> 01:51:34.059 It's Cobb comes across slightly more prose and poetry, and I I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13066-1 01:51:34.059 --> 01:51:35.952 kind of get a bit confused by the. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13079-0 01:51:37.402 --> 01:51:39.822 Is this feels like a fine line on this one. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13081-0 01:51:41.212 --> 01:51:41.662 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13111-0 01:51:42.522 --> 01:51:46.255 I mean it's it's written in lines, isn't it? And there's a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13111-1 01:51:46.255 --> 01:51:50.177 rhythm to them and each there's a sort of separate action, if b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13098-0 01:51:47.102 --> 01:51:47.652 Hmm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13111-2 01:51:50.177 --> 01:51:52.202 you like, in each line and then. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13117-0 01:51:53.522 --> 01:51:55.202 You move on to something else. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13125-0 01:51:59.982 --> 01:52:01.662 So yes, you say it kind of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13133-0 01:52:03.342 --> 01:52:05.512 Somewhere between a prose poem and a poem. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13135-0 01:52:06.592 --> 01:52:06.922 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13137-0 01:52:07.042 --> 01:52:07.542 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13141-0 01:52:08.232 --> 01:52:09.622 Just another conversation. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13149-0 01:52:13.872 --> 01:52:14.602 Just wondered what? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13183-0 01:52:14.032 --> 01:52:18.692 Is there much sorry Ros is is the last one where she says she b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13159-0 01:52:16.632 --> 01:52:17.242 The current. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13183-1 01:52:18.692 --> 01:52:23.201 wants to play chess with the new part. It's on. What was it b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13184-0 01:52:22.142 --> 01:52:23.972 Yeah. So I wonder what you made it that? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13183-2 01:52:23.201 --> 01:52:23.652 again? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13205-0 01:52:24.572 --> 01:52:28.441 My heart wants to play chess with another heart inside my b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13198-0 01:52:24.752 --> 01:52:26.382 My heart wants to keep track. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13205-1 01:52:28.441 --> 01:52:29.842 body. It's very deep. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13220-0 01:52:33.632 --> 01:52:37.522 I thought, and I I'm trying to trying to picture this. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13215-0 01:52:34.862 --> 01:52:35.712 Yeah. What what? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13222-0 01:52:39.392 --> 01:52:39.782 But. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13232-0 01:52:41.962 --> 01:52:46.562 I wondered if is it pregnancy or is it just? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13242-0 01:52:47.452 --> 01:52:52.062 And wanting to be closer to some dinner relationship than. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13246-0 01:52:54.082 --> 01:52:54.902 Then she is. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13248-0 01:52:55.982 --> 01:52:56.392 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13250-0 01:52:57.142 --> 01:52:57.702 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13257-0 01:52:59.362 --> 01:53:00.352 Doesn't what? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13261-0 01:53:03.062 --> 01:53:03.972 About the first one. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13271-0 01:53:10.702 --> 01:53:13.942 Umm, because there is that sense of loneliness, isn't there? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13274-0 01:53:14.332 --> 01:53:14.752 Alright. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13284-0 01:53:16.782 --> 01:53:18.292 That's very much, Connie country. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13291-0 01:53:17.172 --> 01:53:20.469 Supposed to be? That's where that lines coming from. Then is b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13291-1 01:53:20.469 --> 01:53:20.902 is that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13301-0 01:53:23.852 --> 01:53:26.822 This is very unlike the other imagery in the parents at it. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13303-0 01:53:27.072 --> 01:53:27.552 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13319-0 01:53:30.202 --> 01:53:34.937 Yeah, you're kind of going for the staff images to to the, to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13319-1 01:53:34.937 --> 01:53:36.312 the chest and the. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13323-0 01:53:36.982 --> 01:53:37.872 What does it say? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13350-0 01:54:06.912 --> 01:54:10.279 Yeah, there is that, that feeling of of being split isn't b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13350-1 01:54:10.279 --> 01:54:11.382 there very much so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13349-0 01:54:10.872 --> 01:54:11.352 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13358-0 01:54:16.072 --> 01:54:18.622 Does anyone want to say anything else about this poem? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13383-0 01:54:18.172 --> 01:54:22.750 It's. It does actually resonate with the more fried at the more b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13383-1 01:54:22.750 --> 01:54:26.827 having just left somebody who's farming and life is very b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13383-2 01:54:26.827 --> 01:54:27.972 one-dimensional. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13396-0 01:54:30.932 --> 01:54:34.324 Are not being understood because you've got different dimensions b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13396-1 01:54:34.324 --> 01:54:34.742 to your. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13403-0 01:54:36.082 --> 01:54:39.142 You're hoping that your character and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13420-0 01:54:40.342 --> 01:54:42.865 You know, because no, everybody's got the time or the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13420-1 01:54:42.865 --> 01:54:45.062 inclination to do anything apart from farming. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13460-0 01:54:46.632 --> 01:54:50.247 And you know, being sued seems a bit weird, even though I kind of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13460-1 01:54:50.247 --> 01:54:53.151 did that life. I had other things going on that were b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13460-2 01:54:53.151 --> 01:54:56.657 parallel, that were completely different. And it it you kind of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13460-3 01:54:56.657 --> 01:54:59.888 get that sense at the end. Like you said it's it's not the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13460-4 01:54:59.888 --> 01:55:00.272 stabby. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13467-0 01:55:01.132 --> 01:55:05.142 Harpoon fishing town. Vibe. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13474-0 01:55:05.862 --> 01:55:07.662 It's she wants to play chess. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13487-0 01:55:08.942 --> 01:55:12.630 And she said, obviously, you know, it seems like there's not b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13487-1 01:55:12.630 --> 01:55:14.262 many chess players in town. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13502-0 01:55:17.442 --> 01:55:21.705 So I think it's not, it's not yearning for somebody on what b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13502-1 01:55:21.705 --> 01:55:23.552 you different wavelengths. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13518-0 01:55:27.942 --> 01:55:31.701 So what's really coming out of this is relating to the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13518-1 01:55:31.701 --> 01:55:33.752 emotional meaning of the poem. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13522-0 01:55:35.622 --> 01:55:36.212 Kind of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13523-0 01:55:35.942 --> 01:55:36.222 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13534-0 01:55:36.932 --> 01:55:39.902 The psychic welded psychological world she's inhabit. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13548-0 01:55:40.872 --> 01:55:44.747 This is coming out of fun where she's played with imagery and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13539-0 01:55:40.982 --> 01:55:41.352 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13548-1 01:55:44.747 --> 01:55:45.122 place. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13554-0 01:55:46.122 --> 01:55:47.672 Use of metaphors for. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13561-0 01:55:48.762 --> 01:55:50.442 What's going on in her mind and her night? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13569-0 01:55:52.172 --> 01:55:54.462 The complete opposite radio of the Owen Sheers. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13571-0 01:55:55.122 --> 01:55:55.482 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13582-0 01:55:56.862 --> 01:56:00.592 Very different kind of way of using poetic form as well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13584-0 01:56:02.232 --> 01:56:02.902 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13589-0 01:56:03.622 --> 01:56:04.822 So I think it's really. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13599-0 01:56:06.062 --> 01:56:08.232 I'm not well, we should be moving on to the. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13603-0 01:56:09.392 --> 01:56:10.912 With the writing part. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13616-0 01:56:12.482 --> 01:56:16.142 The class I'm just going to signpost the other poems on the. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13669-0 01:56:20.702 --> 01:56:24.896 I'll .2 so this one to get it on. How do you quite a tiny b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13669-1 01:56:24.896 --> 01:56:29.234 version. So I think I will later I'll e-mail you a slightly b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13669-2 01:56:29.234 --> 01:56:33.717 slightly bigger version text. So mapping the genome, Michael, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13643-0 01:56:31.722 --> 01:56:32.172 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13669-3 01:56:33.717 --> 01:56:38.272 some Roberts, this is an example of a completely a poem that's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13669-4 01:56:38.272 --> 01:56:42.972 completely invented a place and used it as an extended metaphor. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13675-0 01:56:43.702 --> 01:56:46.312 And I would have said to explore. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13698-0 01:56:46.932 --> 01:56:50.206 And the pursuit of knowledge, what we mean by pursuit of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13698-1 01:56:50.206 --> 01:56:53.768 knowledge and of of, of trying to pin down the assets of what b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13698-2 01:56:53.768 --> 01:56:54.802 it is to be human. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13709-0 01:56:56.122 --> 01:56:59.071 But I would read this in your own time, make your own notes on b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13709-1 01:56:59.071 --> 01:56:59.492 this one. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13750-0 01:57:00.792 --> 01:57:05.002 But it's just example of how you could also fit use completely b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13750-1 01:57:05.002 --> 01:57:09.346 fixed places in poetry. Use them as metaphors. You might want to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13750-2 01:57:09.346 --> 01:57:13.489 do some research as clearly some environments has to to flesh b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13750-3 01:57:13.489 --> 01:57:17.431 them out and to give them in three-dimensional. But that's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13750-4 01:57:17.431 --> 01:57:19.102 another kind of approach. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13754-0 01:57:20.202 --> 01:57:22.632 And this one. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13759-0 01:57:24.872 --> 01:57:26.392 This is just a snippet really. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13774-0 01:57:27.472 --> 01:57:31.178 For poem by Francis Presley, where she tries to arrange her b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13774-1 01:57:31.178 --> 01:57:33.402 herbs on the page so they actually. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13776-0 01:57:34.212 --> 01:57:34.622 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13789-0 01:57:36.872 --> 01:57:41.272 Echo the way she's walking and the time it takes to move from. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13796-0 01:57:41.952 --> 01:57:44.892 Lift a leg. Him. Lock it down in another space. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13804-0 01:57:45.732 --> 01:57:48.342 But she's also looking at the ground. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13822-0 01:57:50.102 --> 01:57:53.619 I think in this instance she was trying to find the remains of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13822-1 01:57:53.619 --> 01:57:54.792 some standing stones. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13837-0 01:57:55.332 --> 01:58:00.181 Umm, the sort of broken and partly hidden by rubble from b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13837-1 01:58:00.181 --> 01:58:01.202 another era. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13842-0 01:58:02.782 --> 01:58:03.972 So it's the way. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13856-0 01:58:05.052 --> 01:58:08.257 I think the the individual things stone she finds, they're b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13856-1 01:58:08.257 --> 01:58:08.692 kind of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13877-0 01:58:09.642 --> 01:58:14.540 The incomplete, but they they just kind of stand out almost as b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13877-1 01:58:14.540 --> 01:58:15.862 a separate ideas. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13914-0 01:58:16.102 --> 01:58:19.814 Umm, separate universes. But I think the point I was trying to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13914-1 01:58:19.814 --> 01:58:22.759 make was that as you move through a space and you b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13914-2 01:58:22.759 --> 01:58:26.589 experienced things in space, you could try and duplicate that in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13914-3 01:58:26.589 --> 01:58:28.592 the way you arrange the power in. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13920-0 01:58:30.572 --> 01:58:32.822 And the final I put up with. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13956-0 01:58:34.042 --> 01:58:37.896 What a similar really. I've got a silver wrong way around where b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13956-1 01:58:37.896 --> 01:58:41.629 again, it's someone going on a walk and and they build a poem b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13956-2 01:58:41.629 --> 01:58:45.242 from their immediate impressions of of what they're seeing. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13975-0 01:58:46.342 --> 01:58:50.629 So the poem the narrative thread is really is this accumulation b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13975-1 01:58:50.629 --> 01:58:53.912 of of experiences and the journey that we're on. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13994-0 01:58:55.642 --> 01:58:59.385 And again, look at these in your own time and it's kind of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/13994-1 01:58:59.385 --> 01:59:03.192 pointing another direction which you could experiment with. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14022-0 01:59:04.372 --> 01:59:07.829 What it's like how you could actually walking in a space, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14022-1 01:59:07.829 --> 01:59:11.465 being a place, noticing things, how you might translate that b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14022-2 01:59:11.465 --> 01:59:13.372 onto the page and use the space. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14025-0 01:59:16.762 --> 01:59:17.312 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14029-0 01:59:18.542 --> 01:59:19.592 So let's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14033-0 01:59:20.562 --> 01:59:22.272 Leave this point now then. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14035-0 01:59:23.302 --> 01:59:24.112 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14037-0 01:59:25.062 --> 01:59:25.502 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14051-0 01:59:27.892 --> 01:59:31.586 So that's just a range of different ways of incorporating b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14051-1 01:59:31.586 --> 01:59:32.732 place into a poem. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14067-0 01:59:33.942 --> 01:59:38.740 Ah, So what? I'm going to give you now is time. Quarter of an b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14067-1 01:59:38.740 --> 01:59:41.062 hour, I think to just develop. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14077-0 01:59:41.932 --> 01:59:45.882 The the item poem that we were working on. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14101-0 01:59:47.252 --> 01:59:49.988 You don't have to. You don't have to write a complete b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14101-1 01:59:49.988 --> 01:59:53.282 payment. It just take it as far as it goes as initial draft and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14111-0 01:59:54.012 --> 01:59:56.592 Quote for an hour and then we'll we'll just shame. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14113-0 01:59:58.082 --> 01:59:58.522 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14125-0 02:00:01.502 --> 02:00:04.602 I have a couple of ideas of where else it could go. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14130-0 02:00:05.252 --> 02:00:07.862 OK. So I'll time that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14139-0 02:00:09.682 --> 02:00:11.882 If you want to turn your cameras off free. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14141-0 02:00:12.742 --> 02:00:13.172 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14151-0 02:00:20.412 --> 02:00:24.362 So we will convene in 1/4 of an hour, right? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14155-0 02:00:25.182 --> 02:00:26.462 Everyone clear what we doing? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14162-0 02:00:27.162 --> 02:00:28.812 Think so. Thanks very much. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14163-0 02:00:28.122 --> 02:00:29.322 Yeah, I'm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14180-0 02:00:29.962 --> 02:00:34.575 Unless you start to develop this poem, think about how you might b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14180-1 02:00:34.575 --> 02:00:35.852 use sound as well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14184-0 02:00:36.602 --> 02:00:37.022 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14194-0 02:00:36.962 --> 02:00:40.512 Lester ration kind of thing. Thinking about to the bottom. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14197-0 02:00:41.392 --> 02:00:41.862 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14209-0 02:00:42.762 --> 02:00:45.462 Thank you, rose. 15 minutes. Did you say? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14205-0 02:00:44.112 --> 02:00:44.602 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14223-0 02:00:45.782 --> 02:00:49.112 15 minutes there will share. All right, brilliant. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14224-0 02:00:47.932 --> 02:00:49.142 OK you can. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14328-0 02:12:41.562 --> 02:12:43.512 Couple more minutes or so, everyone. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14348-0 02:14:17.882 --> 02:14:18.342 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14354-0 02:14:22.532 --> 02:14:24.102 No, not that I can think of, no. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14371-0 02:14:42.752 --> 02:14:45.985 All right, if you just start to wear a have thought, you've got b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14371-1 02:14:45.985 --> 02:14:47.602 just bring that to a close then. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14388-0 02:14:50.812 --> 02:14:54.155 If you haven't got very much, don't worry. This is just to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14388-1 02:14:54.155 --> 02:14:56.082 kick start. Don't work basically. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14393-0 02:14:58.932 --> 02:15:00.382 Come on then. Come on. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14400-0 02:15:01.272 --> 02:15:02.942 Because you talk, no. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14402-0 02:15:03.872 --> 02:15:04.402 It's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14409-0 02:15:05.472 --> 02:15:06.812 Yeah. The one that was sick. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14412-0 02:15:07.552 --> 02:15:08.362 Ohh dear. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14415-0 02:15:09.942 --> 02:15:10.382 Oh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14423-0 02:15:13.462 --> 02:15:14.782 Choosing his moments. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14426-0 02:15:13.922 --> 02:15:15.552 No, the tag, sorry. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14428-0 02:15:16.072 --> 02:15:16.522 Hey. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14434-0 02:15:17.052 --> 02:15:18.912 It's pretty something living. There's that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14436-0 02:15:23.602 --> 02:15:24.052 Great. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14444-0 02:15:25.642 --> 02:15:27.702 Like it's my time up, right? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14446-0 02:15:30.132 --> 02:15:30.752 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14451-0 02:15:31.652 --> 02:15:33.562 Right. How did you get on with that? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14453-0 02:15:34.202 --> 02:15:34.512 Ohh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14460-0 02:15:35.602 --> 02:15:36.112 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14456-0 02:15:35.672 --> 02:15:36.212 Ah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14467-0 02:15:36.142 --> 02:15:38.612 It needed more time. 15 minutes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14463-0 02:15:37.052 --> 02:15:37.462 Wait. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14473-0 02:15:39.652 --> 02:15:40.602 Smile, didn't it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14477-0 02:15:39.822 --> 02:15:41.662 I haven't written anything. Hardly. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14497-0 02:15:42.842 --> 02:15:46.532 I just scribble like my husband. I've got that much time. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14493-0 02:15:43.152 --> 02:15:44.862 It doesn't. It doesn't matter too. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14500-0 02:15:47.072 --> 02:15:47.622 Ohh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14505-0 02:15:47.242 --> 02:15:49.272 Yeah, not to worry, not to worry. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14519-0 02:15:50.652 --> 02:15:53.709 Let's share anyway, and it's always nice to hear how people b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14519-1 02:15:53.709 --> 02:15:54.422 are beginning. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14526-0 02:15:55.302 --> 02:15:59.192 OK. Umm, any volunteers to go first? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14531-0 02:16:01.142 --> 02:16:02.152 Or read you Mark. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14539-0 02:16:03.032 --> 02:16:05.592 Yeah, that's lovely. Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14541-0 02:16:05.752 --> 02:16:05.992 Right. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14571-0 02:16:06.802 --> 02:16:10.355 OK, so up the stairs across the hall and through the closed b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14571-1 02:16:10.355 --> 02:16:14.085 door. The one with the sign that says I'm working. I love you, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14571-2 02:16:14.085 --> 02:16:17.816 but please go away. In there is the place. The window with the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14571-3 02:16:17.816 --> 02:16:18.112 view. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14630-0 02:16:19.052 --> 02:16:23.148 Pushed past the piles of musty books and the papers knew this b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14630-1 02:16:23.148 --> 02:16:27.112 is the room that has the window with the view push past the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14630-2 02:16:27.112 --> 02:16:31.076 clutter of the mind at work around the chair, around around b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14630-3 02:16:31.076 --> 02:16:35.305 the swirling chair, pulled high with hot washing that fills the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14630-4 02:16:35.305 --> 02:16:38.542 air, ignores the faces on the zoom laptop there. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14665-0 02:16:39.672 --> 02:16:43.983 How's the hills and valleys made by gravel, rubbers and hills of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14665-1 02:16:43.983 --> 02:16:48.095 pencil that have been turned along the blade. So they connect b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14665-2 02:16:48.095 --> 02:16:51.212 you on paper made be aware of all the all the. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14738-0 02:16:52.122 --> 02:16:56.723 A cables laid across the carpet glades the window to the window b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14738-1 02:16:56.723 --> 02:17:01.180 with a view press against the wall with the radiator radiated b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14738-2 02:17:01.180 --> 02:17:05.710 on your legs. Look across over the fence above the roof to the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14738-3 02:17:05.710 --> 02:17:09.879 hillside of contemplation. Colours crisp and orange green b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14738-4 02:17:09.879 --> 02:17:13.761 where some beams dance, breathing through dark clack. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14738-5 02:17:13.761 --> 02:17:17.859 Blue clouds that shades in purple hues. That's my window b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14738-6 02:17:17.859 --> 02:17:18.722 with a view. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14739-0 02:17:19.332 --> 02:17:20.042 Ohh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14741-0 02:17:20.162 --> 02:17:20.612 Wow. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14745-0 02:17:21.502 --> 02:17:22.402 There you go. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14747-0 02:17:21.782 --> 02:17:22.062 That's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14783-0 02:17:22.832 --> 02:17:27.482 I couldn't help help the rhymes there, but then they sort of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14757-0 02:17:23.242 --> 02:17:25.142 How surprising for 10 minutes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14754-0 02:17:23.432 --> 02:17:24.372 Let's let's play. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14783-1 02:17:27.482 --> 02:17:32.436 they help sort of push it along and feel like you're in a poetic b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14776-0 02:17:31.622 --> 02:17:31.972 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14783-2 02:17:32.436 --> 02:17:33.732 mood, don't they? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14785-0 02:17:33.732 --> 02:17:34.742 That's lovely, but man. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14794-0 02:17:36.602 --> 02:17:37.782 Used to sound. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14805-0 02:17:40.972 --> 02:17:44.172 Like that kind of current that. But like I was. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14820-0 02:17:46.802 --> 02:17:50.112 Sorry, rose. Is it just me? But I can't hear you very well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14828-0 02:17:50.212 --> 02:17:52.402 Ohh sorry, can you can you hear me now? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14830-0 02:17:51.232 --> 02:17:53.142 No, she goes very quiet sometimes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14840-0 02:17:53.442 --> 02:17:55.942 I couldn't hear a thing then. Sorry this. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14836-0 02:17:53.632 --> 02:17:54.022 Ohh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14846-0 02:17:56.022 --> 02:17:57.702 Right. I'm just going to check. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14855-0 02:17:59.362 --> 02:18:00.492 It isn't me, it's her. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14852-0 02:17:59.522 --> 02:17:59.942 Before. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14857-0 02:18:01.032 --> 02:18:01.412 Come on. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14864-0 02:18:03.782 --> 02:18:05.872 Hang on, if I turn off my loudspeaker. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14867-0 02:18:06.672 --> 02:18:07.222 Just a moment. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14881-0 02:18:09.262 --> 02:18:11.832 Can you hear me better now? Does that make any difference? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14894-0 02:18:11.092 --> 02:18:13.672 Yeah, that's that's very different. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14879-0 02:18:11.312 --> 02:18:11.502 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14888-0 02:18:11.842 --> 02:18:12.622 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14910-0 02:18:12.602 --> 02:18:16.077 I can't hear you very well. It's everything. I'll see if I I'll b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14902-0 02:18:14.802 --> 02:18:15.312 Ohh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14907-0 02:18:14.832 --> 02:18:15.362 Ohh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14910-1 02:18:16.077 --> 02:18:17.652 try and put my volume up and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14912-0 02:18:19.922 --> 02:18:20.692 Ah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14918-0 02:18:24.252 --> 02:18:26.532 I get sound mic. Sorry. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14924-0 02:18:31.802 --> 02:18:34.862 Ah, well, just talk loudly. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14938-0 02:18:36.202 --> 02:18:39.672 At what I was saying that I loved the way that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14958-0 02:18:40.602 --> 02:18:44.087 The sound play in Joe's piece was like a current pulling you b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14958-1 02:18:44.087 --> 02:18:46.372 along and through all these scenes and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14960-0 02:18:47.252 --> 02:18:48.072 I'm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14963-0 02:18:49.452 --> 02:18:51.652 And and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14999-0 02:18:53.382 --> 02:18:56.239 But that became more contemplative as we moved b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14999-1 02:18:56.239 --> 02:18:59.885 through. Was that a childhood memory? Was that where we are b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/14999-2 02:18:59.885 --> 02:19:01.952 now or your home? Your home view? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15047-0 02:19:00.702 --> 02:19:04.997 No, that's no, that's my office. When I when I get a bit stressed b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15047-1 02:19:04.997 --> 02:19:08.902 out or I can't cope. That's that's my my window with a view b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15047-2 02:19:08.902 --> 02:19:13.002 and like, as long as I look over the the little houses and the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15031-0 02:19:12.052 --> 02:19:12.742 They. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15047-3 02:19:13.002 --> 02:19:17.167 cottage across and there's a a great big hill with trees on the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15047-4 02:19:17.167 --> 02:19:17.492 tops. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15062-0 02:19:18.652 --> 02:19:23.706 Lots of colours. It's always changing and you can see the sky b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15052-0 02:19:18.682 --> 02:19:19.062 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15062-1 02:19:23.706 --> 02:19:24.032 and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15069-0 02:19:24.412 --> 02:19:26.282 Lovely, lovely. You care. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15068-0 02:19:25.832 --> 02:19:26.362 This is not. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15080-0 02:19:28.642 --> 02:19:31.432 Yes, so that that's how it acts on your mind. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15082-0 02:19:31.612 --> 02:19:31.912 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15101-0 02:19:33.102 --> 02:19:38.462 Great. OK. Anyone else comments on immediate reactions? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15089-0 02:19:34.272 --> 02:19:35.562 Umm. Like. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15110-0 02:19:37.262 --> 02:19:41.532 I wish my lyrical it wasn't on it. It isn't. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15109-0 02:19:40.212 --> 02:19:40.502 You. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15142-0 02:19:43.752 --> 02:19:46.858 I've just written a pile of words that come to mind b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15124-0 02:19:46.562 --> 02:19:46.782 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15142-1 02:19:46.858 --> 02:19:50.502 basically, so it doesn't rain and it's probably no reason to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15142-2 02:19:50.502 --> 02:19:52.712 it either. Just lots of words again. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15151-0 02:19:53.012 --> 02:19:57.132 I do that sometimes. Sometimes that's all I get. So you know. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15165-0 02:19:57.902 --> 02:20:01.167 Just going to put my loudspeaker while I'm listening to you read, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15214-0 02:20:01.052 --> 02:20:05.716 Different, different days. You just have engaged differently to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15165-1 02:20:01.167 --> 02:20:01.612 actually. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15214-1 02:20:05.716 --> 02:20:10.089 different things, don't you? And it's, you know, depends on b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15185-0 02:20:08.692 --> 02:20:08.902 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15214-2 02:20:10.089 --> 02:20:14.535 what's been happening in your life on, on, on, you know, all b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15214-3 02:20:14.535 --> 02:20:18.616 sorts of things sort of influence what comes out, don't b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15214-4 02:20:18.616 --> 02:20:19.272 they? So. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15224-0 02:20:19.232 --> 02:20:22.486 Definitely don't wanna write about too much of those things b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15224-1 02:20:22.486 --> 02:20:22.812 today. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15226-0 02:20:24.472 --> 02:20:24.882 No. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15265-0 02:20:26.312 --> 02:20:30.043 I think cause I've just sort of. I've done literally like jumped b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15265-1 02:20:30.043 --> 02:20:33.488 out of bed. I had a cup of coffee and then realised ohh I'm b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15265-2 02:20:33.488 --> 02:20:37.162 supposed to be in a meeting so I'm I'm still half asleep at my. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15271-0 02:20:38.442 --> 02:20:39.852 It's not, so that's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15293-0 02:20:39.572 --> 02:20:43.432 Well, just the yeah, this is this is my time out. So I'm I'm b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15293-1 02:20:43.432 --> 02:20:46.912 trying to divert from what would normally be going on. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15298-0 02:20:48.232 --> 02:20:50.882 Having five try again. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15318-0 02:20:53.192 --> 02:20:56.352 Did you wanna hear mine? Mine isn't particularly. It's just a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15313-0 02:20:55.302 --> 02:20:55.872 Yes, please. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15318-1 02:20:56.352 --> 02:20:56.862 few words. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15326-0 02:20:56.892 --> 02:20:59.632 They're worried because, I mean, this is just a big stages. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15365-0 02:21:00.132 --> 02:21:04.577 Okey dokey. Right? Well the the scene basically again is from a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15365-1 02:21:04.577 --> 02:21:08.953 walk that I do more often than not. So it's the arrow mounting b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15365-2 02:21:08.953 --> 02:21:13.329 from coaching mountain across the valley is quite a site. It's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15365-3 02:21:13.329 --> 02:21:16.802 painting an artist palette of russets brown Reds. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15372-0 02:21:17.642 --> 02:21:19.812 The Fern the Fern covered hills at. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15455-0 02:21:20.522 --> 02:21:25.138 At this time of year, spring from the racer along Flat Flat b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15455-1 02:21:25.138 --> 02:21:30.216 Path, I walk along early morning just as the sun pops up over the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15455-2 02:21:30.216 --> 02:21:34.525 tall Pines and the red glow shining over the white. The b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15455-3 02:21:34.525 --> 02:21:39.449 whole of the valley which turns this picture, this place into a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15455-4 02:21:39.449 --> 02:21:43.604 beautiful sight. A Monet bozzette buzzards circle and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15455-5 02:21:43.604 --> 02:21:48.144 cry. They're lonely songs essay in the sky. There we go. I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15455-6 02:21:48.144 --> 02:21:51.452 obviously went off and the smell of grass. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15467-0 02:21:51.592 --> 02:21:55.844 I'm damp, Moss. Lift it to my nostrils. That's it. It's far as b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15467-1 02:21:55.844 --> 02:21:56.182 I go. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15486-0 02:21:58.542 --> 02:22:01.832 So and I just didn't really believe off again, yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15490-0 02:21:58.962 --> 02:22:01.575 And we all will be able. Obviously I didn't realize, you b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15490-1 02:22:01.575 --> 02:22:02.492 know you're writing. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15518-0 02:22:03.422 --> 02:22:07.523 The lovely sensory description in that and and I like the way b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15493-0 02:22:03.472 --> 02:22:03.882 Ohh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15518-1 02:22:07.523 --> 02:22:11.756 the sort of the light widens out and all the colours and smells b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15518-2 02:22:11.756 --> 02:22:12.682 you could try. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15540-0 02:22:13.682 --> 02:22:18.058 Changing the point of view so that you are instructing the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15540-1 02:22:18.058 --> 02:22:20.802 reader where to go, what to see and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15539-0 02:22:20.332 --> 02:22:20.862 Right. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15542-0 02:22:21.442 --> 02:22:22.142 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15556-0 02:22:23.352 --> 02:22:27.592 So take it away from the eye and and place us in the scene and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15545-0 02:22:23.442 --> 02:22:23.692 Right. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15567-0 02:22:28.542 --> 02:22:31.432 To create that sense, so I just it's just a thought, I mean. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15579-0 02:22:33.382 --> 02:22:36.257 You know, you could you could take things wherever and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15579-1 02:22:36.257 --> 02:22:37.512 direction you want, but. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15584-0 02:22:39.142 --> 02:22:40.542 Could just see how that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15588-0 02:22:43.772 --> 02:22:44.452 My gosh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15589-0 02:22:44.342 --> 02:22:44.832 But. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15596-0 02:22:47.322 --> 02:22:50.142 Focus things at a slightly different way so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15619-0 02:22:50.902 --> 02:22:54.953 We're feeling and then I found out what? What you what you want b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15619-1 02:22:54.953 --> 02:22:56.852 us to feel at the end but umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15622-0 02:22:57.322 --> 02:22:57.932 There we go. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15629-0 02:22:59.532 --> 02:23:00.972 That's my patch of ground. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15640-0 02:23:01.222 --> 02:23:04.282 Your pattern ground nice as good title. Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15643-0 02:23:03.832 --> 02:23:04.892 Ohh, I'd like I don't. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15647-0 02:23:06.062 --> 02:23:07.112 Just in case. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15650-0 02:23:08.592 --> 02:23:09.192 There we go. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15678-0 02:23:10.312 --> 02:23:14.638 Yeah, it's funny, isn't it? I want this area. I particularly b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15678-1 02:23:14.638 --> 02:23:19.248 it, you know, it isn't obviously all mine. It's everybody's, but b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15678-2 02:23:19.248 --> 02:23:22.582 I, you know, I've sort of, I adopt it as mine. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15681-0 02:23:22.952 --> 02:23:23.242 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15692-0 02:23:23.432 --> 02:23:26.002 It's my mountain. It's my path, you know, and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15696-0 02:23:27.492 --> 02:23:28.602 My little boy world. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15720-0 02:23:30.632 --> 02:23:33.877 Yeah, it's interesting and and kind of you, if you were b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15720-1 02:23:33.877 --> 02:23:37.527 developing that as a piece of writing or a poem to think about b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15720-2 02:23:37.527 --> 02:23:38.222 the sort of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15743-0 02:23:39.352 --> 02:23:43.191 What in particular makes it yours? And you know what? What b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15743-1 02:23:43.191 --> 02:23:46.770 connects to your life experiences or or or feelings or b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15743-2 02:23:46.770 --> 02:23:48.072 what it does to you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15754-0 02:23:49.502 --> 02:23:52.772 If you like it on and a symbological level as well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15757-0 02:23:53.882 --> 02:23:54.602 I'm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15808-0 02:23:55.382 --> 02:23:58.744 That's what I thought the the the sort of the pine trees and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15808-1 02:23:58.744 --> 02:24:02.106 the pine trees as a kind of boundary or a place where things b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15808-2 02:24:02.106 --> 02:24:05.413 change and often comes up in your writing. I've noticed. So b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15784-0 02:24:04.912 --> 02:24:05.562 Ohh. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15808-3 02:24:05.413 --> 02:24:08.664 maybe there's something there that could be developed as a b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15808-4 02:24:08.664 --> 02:24:11.916 turning point in the poem or shift of mood or some kind of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15808-5 02:24:11.916 --> 02:24:12.412 contrast. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15831-0 02:24:12.802 --> 02:24:16.772 I suppose it is a bit of a because it's the very tops of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15831-1 02:24:16.772 --> 02:24:21.369 the forestry and and that's when it becomes all flat and it's all b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15831-2 02:24:21.369 --> 02:24:22.692 more land then and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15873-0 02:24:23.512 --> 02:24:27.326 You know, that's quite further up and I I just haven't taken b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15873-1 02:24:27.326 --> 02:24:31.264 the time to do that for a very long time. So I haven't been up b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15873-2 02:24:31.264 --> 02:24:35.266 to the top of the the forestry for quite a few months actually. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15873-3 02:24:35.266 --> 02:24:38.642 And then in this way, that's all boggy. So you don't. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15888-0 02:24:38.422 --> 02:24:41.438 That's true. That's could say you could go do some field b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15884-0 02:24:41.252 --> 02:24:42.582 Yes, yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15888-1 02:24:41.438 --> 02:24:43.502 reset. Couldn't you wear your wellies? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15914-0 02:24:43.952 --> 02:24:48.531 Oh yes, I. Well, I yeah, my my best, best well is I love him. I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15914-1 02:24:48.531 --> 02:24:51.822 love wellies, so I I could easily do a track. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15920-0 02:24:52.662 --> 02:24:54.332 Umm, when the weather breaks. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15930-0 02:24:55.272 --> 02:24:57.392 Take your notebook and yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15931-0 02:24:56.622 --> 02:24:58.352 I will on my camera. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15936-0 02:24:58.762 --> 02:25:01.452 Yeah, yeah. Build some observations. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15940-0 02:25:02.232 --> 02:25:03.422 Great. Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15947-0 02:25:03.962 --> 02:25:05.782 There we go. Me. Thank you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15950-0 02:25:05.562 --> 02:25:07.422 Thank you, Maria. OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15952-0 02:25:08.012 --> 02:25:08.712 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15959-0 02:25:10.622 --> 02:25:12.482 Which let's show yours. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15968-0 02:25:14.192 --> 02:25:15.202 My feeling OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15984-0 02:25:14.192 --> 02:25:18.085 OK, it's it's not exactly a poem. It's more sort of I I'd b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15984-1 02:25:18.085 --> 02:25:21.912 need to think about it a lot more before I could really. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/15992-0 02:25:22.812 --> 02:25:25.292 I think the big be true. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16011-0 02:25:25.802 --> 02:25:30.092 And rather than imagine what it's like, I would I think, I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16011-1 02:25:30.092 --> 02:25:34.091 think I'd, I would do my research roles and I would go b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16011-2 02:25:34.091 --> 02:25:35.182 and try it out. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16020-0 02:25:36.302 --> 02:25:39.212 OK, so this is about this is instructions for somebody. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16061-0 02:25:39.972 --> 02:25:45.663 The gate will be open, propped, broken. For how long? 1012 years b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16061-1 02:25:45.663 --> 02:25:50.917 to protect the tiny hands that now drive cars and shave. Go b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16061-2 02:25:50.917 --> 02:25:56.433 through down into the orchard. Birdsong may pause, interrupted b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16061-3 02:25:56.433 --> 02:25:57.922 but never broken. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16085-0 02:25:58.812 --> 02:26:02.778 Sorry about your wet feet. May mornings are never dry here and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16085-1 02:26:02.778 --> 02:26:05.862 the long grass holds dew and rain like treasure. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16102-0 02:26:07.182 --> 02:26:11.653 6 Steps down, then right past court pond Duplat, Lord b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16102-1 02:26:11.653 --> 02:26:14.302 Lambourne and faithful Tom part. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16112-0 02:26:15.082 --> 02:26:18.092 He'll be dressed in pink and white when all the rest fail. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16116-0 02:26:18.982 --> 02:26:20.082 Stop at the pair. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16132-0 02:26:20.802 --> 02:26:24.973 Overgrown and misshapen, the wedding over and the blossom b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16132-1 02:26:24.973 --> 02:26:26.412 Browning under foot. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16162-0 02:26:27.222 --> 02:26:32.144 Now turn show your back to the epint ranges and the road be b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16162-1 02:26:32.144 --> 02:26:36.737 here. Now move to catch a sunbeam on your face, then be b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16162-2 02:26:36.737 --> 02:26:39.772 still for the feral cat to slide by. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16166-0 02:26:41.072 --> 02:26:42.162 That's as far as I go. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16175-0 02:26:43.952 --> 02:26:46.372 They got to journey. It's nice, no. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16180-0 02:26:46.742 --> 02:26:47.782 Yeah, it is and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16190-0 02:26:49.742 --> 02:26:52.942 Because it's just full of this drama and moving from. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16200-0 02:26:53.622 --> 02:26:57.162 I'm at the moment and what are we going to see next and? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16225-0 02:26:58.152 --> 02:27:02.521 But all the things you linger on are just kind of held as images b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16225-1 02:27:02.521 --> 02:27:06.621 in it and and the description really takes us into feel like b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16225-2 02:27:06.621 --> 02:27:08.302 another another level of. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16228-0 02:27:10.782 --> 02:27:11.402 Feeling. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16267-0 02:27:12.482 --> 02:27:16.361 Contact the on the wit of the feral cat as well. Just kind of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16267-1 02:27:16.361 --> 02:27:20.115 symbol of moving further into the into wildness and natural b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16267-2 02:27:20.115 --> 02:27:23.994 world. So yeah. Lovely. Lovely. Yeah, that's going somewhere, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16267-3 02:27:23.994 --> 02:27:27.748 definitely. And a very a very natural, very authentic voice b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16267-4 02:27:27.748 --> 02:27:29.062 coming through there. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16271-0 02:27:29.852 --> 02:27:30.642 I think. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16290-0 02:27:31.552 --> 02:27:35.196 I really, really like that bit about the gate propped open for b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16290-1 02:27:35.196 --> 02:27:38.782 like little hands that are all grown up, and I like that bit. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16301-0 02:27:39.522 --> 02:27:42.572 And they're all trying thing and shaving. But that was great. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16308-0 02:27:44.412 --> 02:27:46.522 Must get round to fixing that gate. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16311-0 02:27:54.592 --> 02:27:55.102 Active. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16318-0 02:28:01.062 --> 02:28:02.262 But I hear you, Ros. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16324-0 02:28:02.532 --> 02:28:03.622 Ohh sorry so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16328-0 02:28:04.322 --> 02:28:06.012 I could hear you and lean forward. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16335-0 02:28:06.962 --> 02:28:09.402 OK, member, just sitting too far. Can you hear me now? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16343-0 02:28:09.622 --> 02:28:10.422 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16344-0 02:28:09.652 --> 02:28:10.342 Yep. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16361-0 02:28:10.322 --> 02:28:14.205 Yeah, better. OK. Can we hear your piece then? Jones? As far b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16345-0 02:28:10.332 --> 02:28:10.572 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16359-0 02:28:13.422 --> 02:28:14.342 OK. Right then. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16361-1 02:28:14.205 --> 02:28:15.032 as it's gone. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16380-0 02:28:15.212 --> 02:28:19.500 And this is kind of just coming from my new living room because b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16380-1 02:28:19.500 --> 02:28:22.582 I said I moved last year. So if things a bit. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16381-0 02:28:21.552 --> 02:28:21.992 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16387-0 02:28:23.242 --> 02:28:24.672 Skewiff but I've got. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16412-0 02:28:25.962 --> 02:28:29.706 Well travelled knickknacks brought from where we were b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16412-1 02:28:29.706 --> 02:28:34.143 unloved on the old mantle piece. Isis commands share space with b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16412-2 02:28:34.143 --> 02:28:36.362 amethyst dug by another's hands. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16423-0 02:28:37.182 --> 02:28:40.842 And the flimsy hands drawn card, precious to this mother. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16431-0 02:28:41.922 --> 02:28:43.832 Relaxed on dark veil of it. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16458-0 02:28:44.562 --> 02:28:49.164 A sofa recently wrestled down steep steps around awkward b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16458-1 02:28:49.164 --> 02:28:53.120 corners, but Eagan you neighbours, curious of my b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16458-2 02:28:53.120 --> 02:28:54.412 fortunes change. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16464-0 02:28:55.482 --> 02:28:57.512 That's as much as I as I've done. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16479-0 02:28:58.692 --> 02:29:04.133 Oh, my God, that's that's so sensory and packed with stories b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16479-1 02:29:04.133 --> 02:29:05.382 to unpack and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16481-0 02:29:06.202 --> 02:29:06.682 Time. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16501-0 02:29:08.062 --> 02:29:11.454 And because we're also going on a journey through the space and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16501-1 02:29:11.454 --> 02:29:13.892 different levels and different times as well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16510-0 02:29:14.562 --> 02:29:17.992 Passed and why is the speeding? Is it going to? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16519-0 02:29:19.322 --> 02:29:22.162 Yeah. So that's a that's a very promising beginning there. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16529-0 02:29:23.142 --> 02:29:25.462 Proof texted me, and touch and texture. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16524-0 02:29:23.332 --> 02:29:23.682 Thanks. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16535-0 02:29:26.272 --> 02:29:28.542 I'm very important as in. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16539-0 02:29:31.322 --> 02:29:32.412 Sense to draw on. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16541-0 02:29:34.182 --> 02:29:34.612 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16550-0 02:29:35.602 --> 02:29:38.422 I like the unpacking of the unpacking. That's good. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16553-0 02:29:39.172 --> 02:29:39.512 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16554-0 02:29:39.192 --> 02:29:39.522 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16556-0 02:29:41.032 --> 02:29:41.632 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16558-0 02:29:44.492 --> 02:29:44.862 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16566-0 02:29:48.572 --> 02:29:49.712 It's quite a kind of like. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16570-0 02:29:51.802 --> 02:29:52.532 Theme in the past. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16576-0 02:29:54.242 --> 02:29:56.342 Packing the future, unpacking the part. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16581-0 02:29:57.262 --> 02:29:57.792 You're lining. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16582-0 02:29:57.422 --> 02:29:57.742 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16584-0 02:29:59.082 --> 02:29:59.632 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16586-0 02:30:01.562 --> 02:30:01.992 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16596-0 02:30:03.062 --> 02:30:06.792 It's almost like a bit of unpacking myself as well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16602-0 02:30:07.822 --> 02:30:08.172 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16604-0 02:30:07.872 --> 02:30:08.322 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16611-0 02:30:07.902 --> 02:30:10.632 That the packed myself up a bit tight. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16605-0 02:30:08.522 --> 02:30:08.792 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16625-0 02:30:11.392 --> 02:30:14.186 When I was on the farm, when they were kind of unpacking b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16625-1 02:30:14.186 --> 02:30:15.902 everything and and you know, it's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16630-0 02:30:18.312 --> 02:30:20.702 Probably being a bit more authentic. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16647-0 02:30:22.092 --> 02:30:26.592 Yeah, you get a sense of you within the now and I who you b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16638-0 02:30:22.342 --> 02:30:23.002 So you could. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16647-1 02:30:26.592 --> 02:30:26.902 are. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16649-0 02:30:28.262 --> 02:30:28.682 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16652-0 02:30:30.232 --> 02:30:31.182 What you do? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16660-0 02:30:32.292 --> 02:30:35.162 So you could always take that further to include. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16668-0 02:30:35.912 --> 02:30:39.662 The view beyond the interior space and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16674-0 02:30:40.502 --> 02:30:41.932 You know that sense that maybe? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16683-0 02:30:43.852 --> 02:30:46.562 Opening out, venturing in your life a bit more. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16687-0 02:30:48.622 --> 02:30:49.332 Switch it on. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16692-0 02:30:50.122 --> 02:30:52.102 Psychodrama. Poem, perhaps? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16694-0 02:30:53.042 --> 02:30:53.432 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16712-0 02:30:54.152 --> 02:30:58.462 OK, well, well done, everybody. Lovely work out of today. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16701-0 02:30:55.492 --> 02:30:56.022 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16740-0 02:30:57.152 --> 02:31:00.523 Take a look to see side. Yeah, it's just like a good change. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16740-1 02:31:00.523 --> 02:31:04.005 Change it from the seagull, like from the cows waking me up in b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16740-2 02:31:04.005 --> 02:31:05.332 the morning to seagulls. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16741-0 02:31:05.952 --> 02:31:06.412 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16750-0 02:31:07.492 --> 02:31:10.182 That's true. Yes, that seagulls dropping the. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16768-0 02:31:10.892 --> 02:31:14.292 Do you have muscles on the roof and that time? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16759-0 02:31:12.782 --> 02:31:13.002 That's. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16766-0 02:31:13.672 --> 02:31:14.182 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16771-0 02:31:15.052 --> 02:31:16.282 When we get a lot of that. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16773-0 02:31:17.922 --> 02:31:18.512 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16777-0 02:31:23.312 --> 02:31:24.462 Lots of think about. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16780-0 02:31:25.072 --> 02:31:25.502 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16783-0 02:31:25.212 --> 02:31:27.842 Yes. Yeah, so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16805-0 02:31:28.002 --> 02:31:33.672 Umm, so I'll just show you the task for next time. But for the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16787-0 02:31:29.532 --> 02:31:29.882 Just. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16805-1 02:31:33.672 --> 02:31:37.452 workshop. But I'll also e-mail it to her. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16809-0 02:31:37.632 --> 02:31:37.952 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16807-0 02:31:38.452 --> 02:31:38.772 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16811-0 02:31:40.232 --> 02:31:40.752 Go. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16813-0 02:31:43.462 --> 02:31:44.072 So. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16817-0 02:31:45.422 --> 02:31:46.612 So it's either. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16822-0 02:31:47.822 --> 02:31:49.452 Write a poem titled. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16850-0 02:31:50.072 --> 02:31:52.869 Well, you actually on this island, but you can give it any b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16850-1 02:31:52.869 --> 02:31:55.903 title to be honest and based on the notes you made in class. So b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16850-2 02:31:55.903 --> 02:31:57.752 that was based on the exercise we did. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16874-0 02:31:58.672 --> 02:32:02.003 Or write a poem based on recollection of a pace that was b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16874-1 02:32:02.003 --> 02:32:05.276 important to in childhood. So. So it's basically either b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16874-2 02:32:05.276 --> 02:32:08.082 developed the one you've developed just now or. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16887-0 02:32:09.862 --> 02:32:12.823 For the childhood, one that we started to make notes for b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16887-1 02:32:12.823 --> 02:32:14.122 everyone. Everyone clear. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16889-0 02:32:15.572 --> 02:32:15.842 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16891-0 02:32:16.932 --> 02:32:17.282 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16893-0 02:32:17.472 --> 02:32:18.022 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16895-0 02:32:19.452 --> 02:32:20.802 Obviously. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16956-0 02:32:22.342 --> 02:32:25.258 Through the course of the module, if you want to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16956-1 02:32:25.258 --> 02:32:28.948 experiment with a different kind of poem based on some of the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16956-2 02:32:28.948 --> 02:32:32.757 things we looked at today, then you can do that as well. Builds b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16956-3 02:32:32.757 --> 02:32:36.447 up different material for the portfolio. It doesn't just have b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16956-4 02:32:36.447 --> 02:32:40.137 to be the things that I give you specific exercises for. It's b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16956-5 02:32:40.137 --> 02:32:43.232 like I don't want to inhibit anyones creativity so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16962-0 02:32:45.512 --> 02:32:47.482 Golf in any directions you want. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/16965-0 02:32:48.182 --> 02:32:48.812 Oh God. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17002-0 02:32:49.762 --> 02:32:52.987 Yes, so you're you're not confined to the exercises. I b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17002-1 02:32:52.987 --> 02:32:56.682 think so long as what you the work comes out of the course and b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17002-2 02:32:56.682 --> 02:33:00.552 the material we've looked at the kind of conversations we've had. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17004-0 02:33:01.702 --> 02:33:02.502 That's fine. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17007-0 02:33:03.312 --> 02:33:04.092 All right then. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17010-0 02:33:09.512 --> 02:33:11.862 OK so. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17017-0 02:33:13.002 --> 02:33:15.462 Any any questions before we? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17021-0 02:33:16.682 --> 02:33:18.152 Say goodbye for today. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17023-0 02:33:20.862 --> 02:33:21.572 Umm. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17035-0 02:33:22.792 --> 02:33:26.712 What what exactly is happening next Tuesday, then Raz? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17053-0 02:33:26.012 --> 02:33:30.415 Right. Well, I'm having to change reschedule to Thursday b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17040-0 02:33:27.962 --> 02:33:28.312 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17053-1 02:33:30.415 --> 02:33:33.582 next Thursday, cause Burton appointment. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17048-0 02:33:31.062 --> 02:33:31.732 All right. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17055-0 02:33:34.602 --> 02:33:35.082 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17084-0 02:33:35.032 --> 02:33:38.648 And so it's going to be in person in Lampeter if it kind of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17084-1 02:33:38.648 --> 02:33:41.902 problem make it. Yeah. Yeah. Can you make that chili? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17070-0 02:33:38.942 --> 02:33:39.502 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17077-0 02:33:40.762 --> 02:33:41.102 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17088-0 02:33:41.292 --> 02:33:43.582 Fine, so that'll be Thursday. What time? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17093-0 02:33:44.352 --> 02:33:45.972 So 11:00 o'clock. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17098-0 02:33:46.072 --> 02:33:47.442 11 right. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17109-0 02:33:46.912 --> 02:33:49.912 Yeah, it's just to allow more people, more time to get here b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17109-1 02:33:49.912 --> 02:33:50.562 and that's a. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17124-0 02:33:51.422 --> 02:33:54.529 Basically to our session we can be a bit flexible, though we go b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17124-1 02:33:54.529 --> 02:33:54.772 over. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17127-0 02:33:57.412 --> 02:33:58.502 And. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17134-0 02:33:59.382 --> 02:34:00.432 That's the 30th. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17139-0 02:33:59.902 --> 02:34:02.192 I'll let you know which room when I know. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17146-0 02:34:02.752 --> 02:34:03.262 Right. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17143-0 02:34:02.762 --> 02:34:03.142 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17159-0 02:34:03.012 --> 02:34:06.729 Hopefully I'll have a staff caught by then. Cardigan, get b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17159-1 02:34:06.729 --> 02:34:07.882 into the building. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17158-0 02:34:08.182 --> 02:34:08.452 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17203-0 02:34:09.832 --> 02:34:13.521 Is it still in the? Is it Canterbury building and yacht b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17169-0 02:34:10.022 --> 02:34:11.182 It's crazy, isn't it? b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17203-1 02:34:13.521 --> 02:34:17.077 Syria? It was art seven, I thought. Somebody'd or you b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17189-0 02:34:13.872 --> 02:34:14.802 The arts scenery. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17215-0 02:34:16.362 --> 02:34:19.785 Yeah, yeah, it might be the same room, but I'll let I'll I'll b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17203-2 02:34:17.077 --> 02:34:17.802 would? Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17215-1 02:34:19.785 --> 02:34:21.552 e-mail you all and let you know. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17248-0 02:34:22.022 --> 02:34:26.323 OK, it's fun to be around. It's been so long since I'm I've been b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17221-0 02:34:22.912 --> 02:34:23.302 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17248-1 02:34:26.323 --> 02:34:30.425 over there since so I know the Canterbury Building and I kind b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17234-0 02:34:27.702 --> 02:34:28.032 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17248-2 02:34:30.425 --> 02:34:32.542 of know where the arts place is. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17267-0 02:34:32.642 --> 02:34:38.429 Yeah, it's the one that's sort of dagly opposite 1822, the cafe b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17262-0 02:34:36.522 --> 02:34:36.762 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17264-0 02:34:36.722 --> 02:34:36.982 Right. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17267-1 02:34:38.429 --> 02:34:39.152 and and. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17273-0 02:34:39.752 --> 02:34:40.782 And that's 11:00 o'clock. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17288-0 02:34:40.462 --> 02:34:43.381 Am I mean, maybe you could meet meeting the cafe first or b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17288-1 02:34:43.381 --> 02:34:44.992 something all go over as a gang. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17285-0 02:34:43.832 --> 02:34:44.262 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17300-0 02:34:45.472 --> 02:34:46.872 Yeah, that'd be good idea. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17317-0 02:34:45.792 --> 02:34:50.242 But what was great last time actually get to meet everybody b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17305-0 02:34:47.752 --> 02:34:48.372 Yeah, yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17317-1 02:34:50.242 --> 02:34:52.022 in person was was great. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17325-0 02:34:51.582 --> 02:34:53.902 Yeah. Yeah, that's social. Listen to it. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17330-0 02:34:54.582 --> 02:34:55.652 I'll be a good idea. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17331-0 02:34:55.742 --> 02:34:56.112 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17338-0 02:34:56.842 --> 02:34:58.422 Well, I'll be there for 10 then. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17349-0 02:34:58.932 --> 02:35:02.022 Oh, there we go. Ohh, that's Thursday. Excellent. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17385-0 02:35:01.022 --> 02:35:05.406 Alright. I mean it's got further to come, but yeah, yeah, better. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17358-0 02:35:04.322 --> 02:35:04.762 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17361-0 02:35:04.832 --> 02:35:05.492 Yeah. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17385-1 02:35:05.406 --> 02:35:09.723 Alright then. Everyone OK, so if everyone's happy, I'll leave it b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17385-2 02:35:09.723 --> 02:35:13.641 there and I'll say goodbye for today and then take care of b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17378-0 02:35:12.442 --> 02:35:12.802 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17391-0 02:35:13.272 --> 02:35:15.642 Good luck on Tuesday, Ros. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17385-3 02:35:13.641 --> 02:35:14.372 yourselves. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17414-0 02:35:15.272 --> 02:35:19.140 Thank you. I'd be fine. Yeah, thanks. Alright. OK. Get some b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17398-0 02:35:16.012 --> 02:35:16.642 Yes. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17414-1 02:35:19.140 --> 02:35:22.622 rest. As if you were didn't get much rest last night. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17432-0 02:35:23.782 --> 02:35:27.030 I'll see you the week and everything. Anything you want to b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17432-1 02:35:27.030 --> 02:35:28.682 ask. Meantime, just e-mail me. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17431-0 02:35:27.882 --> 02:35:28.272 On. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17452-0 02:35:29.072 --> 02:35:32.305 Or just to just to be clear, then, there's nothing on Tuesday b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17452-1 02:35:32.305 --> 02:35:34.182 now and it's it's Thursday instead. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17491-0 02:35:33.912 --> 02:35:37.605 Sorry, Thursdays. Yeah. Let's see on Thursday. Yeah, yeah, b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17463-0 02:35:36.322 --> 02:35:36.802 That's OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17491-1 02:35:37.605 --> 02:35:41.361 I'll. I'll put everything in e-mail. OK, I'll just stop the b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17469-0 02:35:38.182 --> 02:35:38.632 Excellent. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17477-0 02:35:39.942 --> 02:35:41.432 Yes, thank you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17491-2 02:35:41.361 --> 02:35:44.742 recording. I'll. I'll send out the recording as well. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17480-0 02:35:41.382 --> 02:35:41.792 OK. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17485-0 02:35:42.182 --> 02:35:42.732 Right. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17493-0 02:35:45.512 --> 02:35:45.962 But. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17496-0 02:35:46.562 --> 02:35:47.092 Bye bye. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17507-0 02:35:47.742 --> 02:35:49.272 Hi everyone have a good week. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17502-0 02:35:47.752 --> 02:35:48.242 Thank you. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17513-0 02:35:49.342 --> 02:35:49.582 Right. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17512-0 02:35:50.012 --> 02:35:50.392 Bye. b25c2eef-5b5c-45f1-a19c-e48f7544025c/17516-0 02:35:50.942 --> 02:35:51.252 Right.