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OK.

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Everybody got something.

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Yeah.

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4.

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OK.

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Let's share those then, shot
with that Joe Griffiths, Joe

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purple jumper.

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Uh, OK.

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Right, I.

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Well, I struggled with this.
It's me. It's just.

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Alright.

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Umm.

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So that's mostly sort of bullet
points that I'm trying to sort

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of think about and work through,
OK.

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Yeah, it's just.

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Exercise.

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So.

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Uh, sort of it.

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On that, just come up with
somebody and something. So I've

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I've picked sort of a a older
lady that.

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What the gypsy lady living by
the fire, yeah.

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So.

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So there's lots of smells and
memories in the fire. You know?

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What's his dressed in and stuff,
but.

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Actually.

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Yes, I'll, I'll, I'll just wait
the rubbish.

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Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah.

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OK.

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Sociation.

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So.

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Right. So I'll put a bet. I've
now fingers barely open or not

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to hold the hot kettle.

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A holy tress hands below the
knees too close to the foam

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planes above wellies.

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I'm gonna go down about some
memories of my grandmother

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cooking breakfast bread beneath
the embers.

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And.

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I am.

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And.

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How she feels like her hands
belong to somebody else because

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she can't do what she used to be
able to do with them.

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Wow.

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And.

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On the and that's about it
really.

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Mostly I think I think there are
some real.

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I mean you you kind of evoke the
sense of place with the fire and

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and you talk about the smells
and.

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Something you could build on
that whole atmosphere and then I

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love that idea of the.

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The manual is buried in the fire
and coming out of the fire and

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four watch dancing planes.

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Pictures.

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Umm.

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Drawing a sin and.

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That's really interesting. That
idea of the hands belonging to

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somebody else.

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Difference of past and future.

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Something is a lot of potential
in that actually great. Thank

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you, Joe.

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Any any thoughts anybody just?

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Refractions.

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Yes, the hands bit as well that
that was the the the striking

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phrase for me. And and I think
sometimes with these things I I

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found that I've started writing
mine here that.

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If you'd said what have I got to
say about this person, I'd say,

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well, not really, not really a
lot. But actually when you start

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to write it, you you you start
to like think of so much more

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and it is the process, isn't it?
Of of starting to put it down

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and then juxtapositions and
things start coming into your

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Umm.

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mind.

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Yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah.

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Umm. I mean, especially if
you're kind of, you're starting

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with the senses and and the the
context that you see that person

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in the visual things around them
and there's the sounds and then

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at least they started it
together to form.

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More 3 dimensional sense of
place and have the kind of

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themes that go along with that
person as well.

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Claire, what did you put them?

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Right. OK. Well, again, it's
just notes the person, the

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Yeah, that's that's a want it
really.

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person I've chosen is a man
called Fred who is a beekeeper.

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And when we first moved to this
area, we went to a food festival

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and we said, oh, we have an idea
about keeping bees. And he

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literally arrived at our house
the next day in a kind of here

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are the bees. Let's start the
bees sort of way. But I happened

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to see miss, then a petrol
station, which is why I thought

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of him.

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So way the way I picture him is
generally at a village hall

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where we used to go with the
beekeeping society to do honey

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extraction.

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Yeah.

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And the thing when I think about
him is he's always standing. I'm

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not sure he bends in the middle
because he's always standing up.

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He's always sort of ready for
action and and doing things. And

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with the backdrop of Supers. So
the boxes that you have the

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honey in.

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The smell of the the hives, the
the supers themselves, the wax,

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the honey, the bees, it's
unmistakable, and it's not

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actually that nice a smell, but
it it it's just one of those

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things that I could pass a
doorway and I would know that

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Yeah.

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that smell. There's also a
little bit of old wood and

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there's some smoke in there.
From where where you use a

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smoker when you're when you're
going through your bees.

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And Fred is always immaculately
groomed. He wears some quiet

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tweed really good quality
country clothing, and he has the

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most beautiful hair. He must be
well into his 80s now. He's

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still got this sweep of glorious
white hair.

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Umm. And he's shaved so cleanly.
It's you think you've been

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Umm.

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waxed, but it's that his
generation, I suppose his

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upbringing where you are. You
are clean and groomed and then

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you'd never think about your
appearance again. He's just

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always there, ready to help
somebody with something or you

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know he's he's in some ways he
feels like a character rather

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than a person because he's so
much a kind of archetype. And

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then you contrast him with the
backdrop of the sort of the, the

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plasterboard of the village
hall.

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Which is bumped and marked. And
there's noticeboards with

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tattered old notices, all those
chippy laminated signs saying.

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Please do not use the kettle in
the toilets and and that kind of

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The.

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thing. And and the the lonely
drawing pins that have nothing

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to hold up the the seats that
those kinds of horrible

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uncomfortable seats that you get
that are all around and everyone

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else around him, all of the
other beekeepers are just much

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shabbier than he is.

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He said he's a diamond in in
when the rest of us are very

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much the rough, and that's far
as like.

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Oh, that's absolutely brilliant.
Wonderful. Gary got such a sense

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of of the man in his context
and.

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Wonderful vignette and.

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Umm.

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I love how you said his wax, but
of course bees create wax as

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well so.

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That's something that I think
you could you could work on

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those sort of threads and
connections.

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I have something things being
shined up and perfected, and

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then the shabbiness.

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Wonderful. OK, any any
reactions?

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Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1074-0
00:08:59.195 --> 00:09:00.105
The jokes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1102-0
00:09:02.355 --> 00:09:06.565
Yeah, I lived there and it may
be one to that kind of level of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1102-1
00:09:06.565 --> 00:09:10.641
grooming was was he in the army
or, you know, something like

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1102-2
00:09:10.641 --> 00:09:12.445
that? It's that. That's it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1117-0
00:09:11.665 --> 00:09:16.116
I think he probably was. Yeah, I
I think also for me, do you

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1117-1
00:09:16.116 --> 00:09:18.815
watch the television program
ghosts?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1123-0
00:09:19.845 --> 00:09:20.275
Yes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1128-0
00:09:19.845 --> 00:09:21.185
The the comedy thing.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1136-0
00:09:19.845 --> 00:09:22.735
Yes, I love Gary this brilliant.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1137-0
00:09:21.715 --> 00:09:22.975
We'll have seen it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1152-0
00:09:22.345 --> 00:09:26.790
And the the the captain in that,
I do wonder about Fred. If in

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1152-1
00:09:26.790 --> 00:09:28.765
another time if he'd be gay.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1212-0
00:09:29.405 --> 00:09:33.363
Umm it it he he has that sort
of. He's never married. And and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1212-1
00:09:33.363 --> 00:09:37.320
all that sort of thing and and
yes you could do. You could do

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1212-2
00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:41.405
my whole back story of of near
misses and never happens and and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1212-3
00:09:41.405 --> 00:09:45.298
that kind of thing has his his
generation. So yes I do think

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1212-4
00:09:45.298 --> 00:09:49.383
it's probably a military thing
or at least that comes across as

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1212-5
00:09:49.383 --> 00:09:51.425
though he must have been surely.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1214-0
00:09:52.645 --> 00:09:53.075
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1219-0
00:09:54.005 --> 00:09:54.885
Interesting.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1217-0
00:09:54.285 --> 00:09:54.505
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1233-0
00:09:57.425 --> 00:10:01.595
I got problem last fall back
Bean, shaver. Ohh dress.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1226-0
00:09:57.915 --> 00:09:58.215
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1239-0
00:10:03.525 --> 00:10:05.525
Uh, like bed and more or less?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1241-0
00:10:06.905 --> 00:10:07.465
They have.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1253-0
00:10:10.245 --> 00:10:13.275
But I like, you know, I I always
think as well.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1273-0
00:10:14.575 --> 00:10:18.895
Alright, cause of the ADHD and
stuff like that and what I've

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1273-1
00:10:18.895 --> 00:10:22.435
forever like counting things
like lonely drawing.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1302-0
00:10:23.935 --> 00:10:29.163
The board wonder wonderful after
things like that. Those seats I

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1302-1
00:10:29.163 --> 00:10:33.585
can never sit still like a look,
you know? Definitely.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1312-0
00:10:35.185 --> 00:10:37.345
Invokes a good image.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1323-0
00:10:38.835 --> 00:10:43.055
The seats of things that we can
relate to and easily.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1339-0
00:10:45.205 --> 00:10:48.439
That's that's. Yeah, that's
that's interesting. And it's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1339-1
00:10:48.439 --> 00:10:50.765
fascinating is to one, once you
sort of.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1355-0
00:10:51.615 --> 00:10:55.119
Oh, you get beyond the kind of
the the immediate sensory

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1355-1
00:10:55.119 --> 00:10:57.455
environment and you start to
sort of.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1378-0
00:10:58.765 --> 00:11:01.985
Mine it for for back story for
possible narratives for

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1378-1
00:11:01.985 --> 00:11:05.497
speculation, and of course that
also points in direction of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1378-2
00:11:05.497 --> 00:11:07.955
where you might want to research
as well.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1382-0
00:11:08.625 --> 00:11:08.905
Ohh.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1390-0
00:11:08.635 --> 00:11:11.905
To feel things out and and this
kind of.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1399-0
00:11:11.575 --> 00:11:14.825
It's interesting how you can't.
You can't help but.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1404-0
00:11:16.345 --> 00:11:17.795
Put your own ideas on.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1410-0
00:11:19.045 --> 00:11:19.695
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1414-0
00:11:19.245 --> 00:11:21.335
Just something so short.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1422-0
00:11:22.145 --> 00:11:25.185
I'm sorry that you know that you
can't.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1429-0
00:11:25.945 --> 00:11:28.095
We'll get away and see it as
something cover.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1431-0
00:11:29.265 --> 00:11:29.495
I.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1437-0
00:11:30.835 --> 00:11:31.755
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1436-0
00:11:31.325 --> 00:11:32.235
Does the sun.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1442-0
00:11:33.475 --> 00:11:34.205
And Mary?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1441-0
00:11:33.595 --> 00:11:34.105
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1457-0
00:11:38.485 --> 00:11:40.847
Even with something we know
immediately start to

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1457-1
00:11:40.847 --> 00:11:41.955
fictionalize, don't we?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1464-0
00:11:42.605 --> 00:11:43.445
Through history.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1463-0
00:11:42.705 --> 00:11:43.255
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1473-0
00:11:46.905 --> 00:11:49.255
Yeah, so I know what these are
life as well.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1482-0
00:11:55.655 --> 00:11:59.165
Thank you, Joe, Joe region.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1481-0
00:11:58.765 --> 00:11:59.045
But.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1500-0
00:12:00.125 --> 00:12:04.179
Yeah. OK. Right. I just did my
son. Because what that's about

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1500-1
00:12:04.179 --> 00:12:06.075
as far as my brain could get.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1503-0
00:12:06.445 --> 00:12:07.785
That's alright, they work.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1534-0
00:12:08.595 --> 00:12:12.323
So Scott, at the kitchen table,
crumbs and drips of hot

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1534-1
00:12:12.323 --> 00:12:16.650
chocolate where he's dipped his
panel chocolate into the cup and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1534-2
00:12:16.650 --> 00:12:19.645
slipped the gooey brown mess
into his mouth.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1542-0
00:12:20.585 --> 00:12:23.255
His place opposite me, away from
his tech.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1563-0
00:12:23.975 --> 00:12:27.350
Where in the mornings he moans
that he's too tired for school

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1563-1
00:12:27.350 --> 00:12:30.725
and his legs ache and school is
boring. And what's the point?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1572-0
00:12:31.535 --> 00:12:33.665
But in the evening of a chicken
Nuggets.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1592-0
00:12:34.305 --> 00:12:39.422
I get the gossip who argued? Who
talked back to Miss, who laughed

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1592-1
00:12:39.422 --> 00:12:42.445
during the puberty talk and
questions.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1596-0
00:12:43.105 --> 00:12:45.085
So many questions.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1603-0
00:12:46.445 --> 00:12:48.455
What I didn't get to write was.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1622-0
00:12:50.675 --> 00:12:53.474
I think he kind of misses zoned
out halfway through the talk

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1622-1
00:12:53.474 --> 00:12:55.125
because he can't. He asked me
then.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1632-0
00:12:56.495 --> 00:13:00.245
It is just we win that bleed,
isn't it like?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1644-0
00:13:01.565 --> 00:13:04.915
She's like ohh like God for
that. It sounds awful.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1646-0
00:13:08.305 --> 00:13:08.675
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1652-0
00:13:09.975 --> 00:13:10.975
Ohh for us.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1654-0
00:13:11.755 --> 00:13:12.125
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1658-0
00:13:15.935 --> 00:13:16.445
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1678-0
00:13:17.165 --> 00:13:20.610
It does make me laugh. So it
just so I thought. Typical hair.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1678-1
00:13:20.610 --> 00:13:23.611
He's kind of most of the
information and then kind of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1678-2
00:13:23.611 --> 00:13:24.055
thought.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1696-0
00:13:26.575 --> 00:13:29.342
Boys, don't. Please don't do it.
We don't do it. We're not.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1696-1
00:13:29.342 --> 00:13:30.725
That's not gonna happen to me.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1704-0
00:13:32.985 --> 00:13:34.995
The relief was like, Oh my God
for that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1708-0
00:13:36.165 --> 00:13:36.545
It's like.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1712-0
00:13:37.565 --> 00:13:38.135
What you do?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1734-0
00:13:40.215 --> 00:13:43.142
However, having lived on a farm,
I thought you'd like kind of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1734-1
00:13:43.142 --> 00:13:45.974
absorbed a bit more because I'm
quite open with them, but I

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1734-2
00:13:45.974 --> 00:13:47.815
thought obviously that was like
a gap.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1739-0
00:13:48.635 --> 00:13:49.415
And this is not.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1749-0
00:13:52.445 --> 00:13:55.705
But yeah, so that was quite
funny. Yes. Last couple of days.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1758-0
00:13:57.665 --> 00:14:01.555
Great. Yeah, really like those
those physical details that you.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1763-0
00:14:02.425 --> 00:14:03.555
You gave at the beginning.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1765-0
00:14:04.245 --> 00:14:04.755
Me.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1795-0
00:14:05.195 --> 00:14:09.023
Went along with him, but it's
it's interesting that actually

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1795-1
00:14:09.023 --> 00:14:12.851
it's very also it's very hard to
describe characters without

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1795-2
00:14:12.851 --> 00:14:16.365
their context, to think of them
that context, but also.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1799-0
00:14:18.135 --> 00:14:19.275
Characters talk.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1806-0
00:14:20.375 --> 00:14:22.665
So it's what they're saying in
that situation.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1808-0
00:14:23.315 --> 00:14:23.865
The.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1822-0
00:14:25.955 --> 00:14:30.665
On how the surroundings somehow
sort of feed into that are kind

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1822-1
00:14:30.665 --> 00:14:30.885
of.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1845-0
00:14:31.965 --> 00:14:35.523
Peter, which the things they're
saying that the emotions and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1845-1
00:14:35.523 --> 00:14:38.964
they're kind of the comic things
and the unsaid things are

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1845-2
00:14:38.964 --> 00:14:41.355
happening as well and something
you can.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1852-0
00:14:42.315 --> 00:14:43.835
You can work within a story.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1861-0
00:14:44.525 --> 00:14:47.835
Yeah, it's it's quite intimate.
Just him and me.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1890-0
00:14:48.715 --> 00:14:52.013
At the table. That's kind of
where I get give away from the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1890-1
00:14:52.013 --> 00:14:55.036
tech and actually get some
sense. So different. What's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1890-2
00:14:55.036 --> 00:14:56.575
what's going on in his life?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1892-0
00:14:57.335 --> 00:14:57.885
Oh.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1902-0
00:15:02.265 --> 00:15:04.665
Yeah. On the other places in the
car.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1914-0
00:15:05.495 --> 00:15:08.165
What was get a lot of activity
when, when when we're driving.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1915-0
00:15:09.025 --> 00:15:09.445
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2012-0
00:15:10.035 --> 00:15:13.472
Yeah, my my son goes to school
26 miles away and have to say

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1926-0
00:15:10.125 --> 00:15:10.435
That's.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1924-0
00:15:10.235 --> 00:15:10.585
So that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2012-1
00:15:13.472 --> 00:15:17.190
it's it's an absolute nightmare.
But on the other hand, it's been

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1935-0
00:15:13.995 --> 00:15:14.435
Wow.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2012-2
00:15:17.190 --> 00:15:20.795
kind of the joy of these years
is that you are or he is trapped

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2012-3
00:15:20.795 --> 00:15:24.175
in a car with you for that
amount of time. But I think what

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/1967-0
00:15:24.135 --> 00:15:24.585
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2012-4
00:15:24.175 --> 00:15:27.781
was really striking about your P
there, Joe, was the difference

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2012-5
00:15:27.781 --> 00:15:31.104
in them. But sometimes they're
absolutely taciturn and you

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2012-6
00:15:31.104 --> 00:15:34.710
can't get a word out. And then
other times they're just sort of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2012-7
00:15:34.710 --> 00:15:38.202
spilling over with telling you
things. And I think having the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2004-0
00:15:37.435 --> 00:15:37.895
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2012-8
00:15:38.202 --> 00:15:41.075
same location and the person
very different is is.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2019-0
00:15:41.165 --> 00:15:43.415
Is an interesting sort of
device.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2041-0
00:15:43.795 --> 00:15:46.914
Yeah, as I was writing, though,
yeah, that's interesting because

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2023-0
00:15:44.125 --> 00:15:44.425
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2041-1
00:15:46.914 --> 00:15:49.025
he's such a grumpy old man in
the mornings.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2045-0
00:15:50.325 --> 00:15:51.355
It like me.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2071-0
00:15:53.345 --> 00:15:57.149
We're both like ohh wait. Just
just get to school and then the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2071-1
00:15:57.149 --> 00:16:00.652
end of the day it's like ohh
wait, everything's now. It's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2071-2
00:16:00.652 --> 00:16:01.255
just like.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2077-0
00:16:01.885 --> 00:16:03.205
What's been going on with you?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2084-0
00:16:05.095 --> 00:16:08.105
That's that's really interesting
comments.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2087-0
00:16:08.955 --> 00:16:09.605
That's right.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2099-0
00:16:13.705 --> 00:16:16.509
And it's another dimension of
spaces and places, isn't it

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2099-1
00:16:16.509 --> 00:16:16.895
because?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2114-0
00:16:18.595 --> 00:16:21.971
The degree, what character will
say in one place they won't

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2114-1
00:16:21.971 --> 00:16:23.715
necessarily say in another and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2115-0
00:16:24.095 --> 00:16:24.555
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2130-0
00:16:25.825 --> 00:16:29.596
And so there are. There are
places that are more permissive

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2130-1
00:16:29.596 --> 00:16:30.915
and places that that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2129-0
00:16:30.845 --> 00:16:31.255
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2141-0
00:16:32.735 --> 00:16:36.386
People behave very differently,
so that whole relationship of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2141-1
00:16:36.386 --> 00:16:36.915
behavior.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2158-0
00:16:37.585 --> 00:16:42.537
To places something that to be
to be woven into fiction drawn

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2158-1
00:16:42.537 --> 00:16:43.575
on this well.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2160-0
00:16:44.375 --> 00:16:44.565
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2164-0
00:16:46.835 --> 00:16:47.665
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2165-0
00:16:47.315 --> 00:16:47.595
Right.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2167-0
00:16:50.185 --> 00:16:50.935
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2180-0
00:16:51.165 --> 00:16:57.974
Umm. What we'll do now, let's
look at some sample extracts

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2180-1
00:16:57.974 --> 00:16:58.435
and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2198-0
00:16:59.285 --> 00:17:02.587
It's been talking about
character. I just want to share

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2198-1
00:17:02.587 --> 00:17:04.945
with you short extractor with
story by.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2206-0
00:17:06.045 --> 00:17:08.755
Katherine Mansfield. I don't
know if you know her story is.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2212-0
00:17:09.765 --> 00:17:11.435
Early 20th century writer.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2218-0
00:17:12.305 --> 00:17:14.365
She's born in 1922.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2226-0
00:17:18.505 --> 00:17:20.045
Just going to do a share.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2245-0
00:17:22.615 --> 00:17:27.314
She's incredibly good at weaving
characters and places together,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2245-1
00:17:27.314 --> 00:17:29.265
the stablishing places and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2248-0
00:17:36.555 --> 00:17:37.245
Isn't that coming?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2250-0
00:17:43.025 --> 00:17:43.785
Alright.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2254-0
00:17:49.115 --> 00:17:50.805
OK, let's try this.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2262-0
00:18:02.135 --> 00:18:04.005
Right now my share isn't working
properly.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2274-0
00:18:07.535 --> 00:18:10.883
Can you see what's on the on the
screen? Can you see any script

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2274-1
00:18:10.883 --> 00:18:11.615
on the screen?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2276-0
00:18:12.385 --> 00:18:12.815
No.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2288-0
00:18:35.995 --> 00:18:37.825
Just try it in the files again.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2311-0
00:19:17.015 --> 00:19:20.165
It's telling me the files onto
Fillable, which I don't

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2311-1
00:19:20.165 --> 00:19:20.795
understand.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2313-0
00:19:22.785 --> 00:19:23.085
Ah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2315-0
00:19:28.315 --> 00:19:28.745
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2324-0
00:19:29.425 --> 00:19:32.205
I'll see if I can open this in
chat instead.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2340-0
00:20:30.215 --> 00:20:30.855
Alright.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2349-0
00:20:42.075 --> 00:20:44.925
Sorry about this, this has never
happened before.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2351-0
00:20:50.525 --> 00:20:51.075
That.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2354-0
00:21:04.065 --> 00:21:04.475
Right.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2362-0
00:21:05.685 --> 00:21:09.125
I couldn't chat as everybody got
chat.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2365-0
00:21:09.635 --> 00:21:10.385
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2369-0
00:21:11.105 --> 00:21:12.185
Paste in the link.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2371-0
00:21:18.045 --> 00:21:18.525
Ohh.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2377-0
00:21:22.655 --> 00:21:25.035
Right. Sure. What's going on
here?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2386-0
00:21:30.575 --> 00:21:32.565
Is it one of the ones on Moodle?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2388-0
00:21:34.255 --> 00:21:34.905
No.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2390-0
00:21:37.435 --> 00:21:37.925
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2405-0
00:21:39.785 --> 00:21:42.691
One more try and then we'll look
at one of the Moodle ones

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2405-1
00:21:42.691 --> 00:21:43.085
instead.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2421-0
00:22:14.525 --> 00:22:16.285
I have one more try opening it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2444-0
00:22:41.315 --> 00:22:47.294
Right, no, some reason won't
share my files. Alright. What

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2444-1
00:22:47.294 --> 00:22:48.205
we'll do?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2446-0
00:22:48.965 --> 00:22:49.685
Then.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2461-0
00:23:02.735 --> 00:23:06.278
So if you get yours up on
screen, will it not share

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2461-1
00:23:06.278 --> 00:23:06.755
screen?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2470-0
00:23:07.735 --> 00:23:10.205
If you've got your file up on
your screen.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2479-0
00:23:11.045 --> 00:23:13.515
And then you share your screen.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2482-0
00:23:18.775 --> 00:23:19.515
Should do.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2490-0
00:23:20.325 --> 00:23:22.225
That should do it like that,
shouldn't it?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2505-0
00:23:31.695 --> 00:23:35.351
I know what to do. You can you
both. You've all got access to

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2505-1
00:23:35.351 --> 00:23:36.825
your e-mail, haven't you?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2507-0
00:23:37.285 --> 00:23:38.035
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2531-0
00:23:38.605 --> 00:23:42.088
I if I'll send it as a copy,
I'll attach a copy to your

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2531-1
00:23:42.088 --> 00:23:45.135
e-mail and then if you can
individually open it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2528-0
00:23:43.845 --> 00:23:44.285
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2536-0
00:23:46.075 --> 00:23:46.905
Try that way.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2537-0
00:23:46.395 --> 00:23:47.325
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2540-0
00:23:47.965 --> 00:23:48.935
Sorry about this.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2542-0
00:23:50.255 --> 00:23:50.515
I.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2566-0
00:24:49.605 --> 00:24:50.235
What's that?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2582-0
00:25:18.655 --> 00:25:20.685
OK, so that's gone to everyone.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2590-0
00:25:23.385 --> 00:25:25.515
So you should have a document
called.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2595-0
00:25:26.455 --> 00:25:28.415
Quotes for fiction class.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2600-0
00:25:30.665 --> 00:25:32.945
And that one e-mail.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2606-0
00:25:40.675 --> 00:25:41.845
Everyone got that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2610-0
00:25:45.585 --> 00:25:46.125
This no.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2616-0
00:25:47.515 --> 00:25:49.705
I just checked that I was gonna
go.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2618-0
00:25:51.165 --> 00:25:51.435
Uh.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2623-0
00:26:00.465 --> 00:26:01.515
Can I come see it?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2633-0
00:26:02.915 --> 00:26:05.825
My inbox is still refreshing
unbelievably slowly.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2637-0
00:26:08.555 --> 00:26:09.095
So I.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2646-0
00:26:10.165 --> 00:26:12.885
Don't say anything to my inbox,
I'm afraid.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2654-0
00:26:13.965 --> 00:26:18.255
OK. All right, let's we'll try
another attack then.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2659-0
00:26:20.095 --> 00:26:21.325
Let's come out with this.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2667-0
00:26:32.025 --> 00:26:33.305
Most teams does now.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2669-0
00:26:36.475 --> 00:26:36.915
So yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2690-0
00:26:49.775 --> 00:26:55.169
OK, let's see if I can share
***** up from pigeon by Alice

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2690-1
00:26:55.169 --> 00:26:56.265
Conran then.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2693-0
00:26:58.705 --> 00:26:58.975
Just.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2695-0
00:26:58.735 --> 00:26:59.845
Sorry I lost.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2700-0
00:27:06.135 --> 00:27:06.925
This closet.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2702-0
00:27:08.095 --> 00:27:08.445
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2714-0
00:27:15.435 --> 00:27:16.135
Yeah, like.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2745-0
00:27:16.315 --> 00:27:19.680
I want to say something wrong
with the universities network

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2745-1
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:23.158
cause I've just refreshed my
home inbox and it took a minute,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2730-0
00:27:21.835 --> 00:27:22.525
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2745-2
00:27:23.158 --> 00:27:26.691
but it's it's done it, whereas
my university one is still just

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2745-3
00:27:26.691 --> 00:27:27.195
spinning.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2765-0
00:27:27.875 --> 00:27:30.605
And I mean that's got like 30
items in the front.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2753-0
00:27:28.095 --> 00:27:28.725
Ohh.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2782-0
00:27:28.265 --> 00:27:32.181
Just like I might be some server
problem cause I've never had

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2782-1
00:27:32.181 --> 00:27:35.085
this problem with the shoe two
online before.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2784-0
00:27:35.515 --> 00:27:36.105
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2788-0
00:27:37.055 --> 00:27:37.835
Oh God.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2790-0
00:27:41.985 --> 00:27:42.385
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2801-0
00:27:45.115 --> 00:27:47.655
Right, absolutely. Nothing's
coming up. When I try to share.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2803-0
00:27:49.935 --> 00:27:50.515
No.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2811-0
00:27:51.175 --> 00:27:53.495
I think there must be some
problem with the system then.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2817-0
00:27:55.475 --> 00:27:56.705
Yeah, that makes sense.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2828-0
00:27:57.255 --> 00:28:01.385
I apologize about this people.
OK, well, what we'll do.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2834-0
00:28:02.825 --> 00:28:04.255
What I'm gonna have to do?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2849-0
00:28:06.035 --> 00:28:10.071
It's after this class I'll
e-mail all the sample pieces to

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2849-1
00:28:10.071 --> 00:28:10.755
everybody.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2857-0
00:28:11.905 --> 00:28:13.435
To look up in your own time.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2860-0
00:28:14.875 --> 00:28:15.305
But.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2867-0
00:28:16.015 --> 00:28:16.835
Let's talk a little.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2879-0
00:28:16.085 --> 00:28:19.555
We want the pigeon extract,
don't we? That was the Moodle.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2893-0
00:28:19.285 --> 00:28:22.600
Ohh yes, if that's a mood, you
can open it yourselves, can't

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2893-1
00:28:22.600 --> 00:28:23.415
you? Of course.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2898-0
00:28:24.035 --> 00:28:24.615
Yeah, or.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2900-0
00:28:24.345 --> 00:28:24.975
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2901-0
00:28:24.485 --> 00:28:25.075
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2905-0
00:28:26.465 --> 00:28:27.025
If you go.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2916-0
00:28:27.105 --> 00:28:31.285
The e-mail you sent just arrived
in my inbox.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2921-0
00:28:37.275 --> 00:28:39.705
It's fiction classes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2926-0
00:28:41.945 --> 00:28:43.115
I'll tell you what we'll do.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2937-0
00:28:43.835 --> 00:28:47.725
Umm. If you could all go on
Moodle and open pigeon.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2943-0
00:28:49.045 --> 00:28:50.525
Pigeon extract that way.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2945-0
00:28:52.295 --> 00:28:52.825
So.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2951-0
00:28:53.835 --> 00:28:54.665
Let me know if.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2976-0
00:28:53.925 --> 00:28:57.285
I might have listen because I've
lost every time I try to leave.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2976-1
00:28:57.285 --> 00:29:00.334
I kind of lose lose teams. I
don't know what. I'm just not

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2976-2
00:29:00.334 --> 00:29:01.315
very with it today.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2984-0
00:29:05.875 --> 00:29:07.585
Let me know if you can get it at
that way.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/2997-0
00:29:32.145 --> 00:29:35.035
My I've got pigeon from so.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3005-0
00:29:35.665 --> 00:29:39.395
Good. How about you?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3002-0
00:29:37.235 --> 00:29:37.535
That's.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3011-0
00:29:41.695 --> 00:29:42.785
I could open, yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3015-0
00:29:43.685 --> 00:29:45.165
Yep, and turn.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3032-0
00:29:45.975 --> 00:29:49.908
And I'm gonna try out my phone
because I I've lost you last

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3025-0
00:29:47.035 --> 00:29:47.395
2.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3032-1
00:29:49.908 --> 00:29:50.235
time.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3047-0
00:29:50.995 --> 00:29:54.413
I tried to do anything else
apart from teams, so if I try it

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3047-1
00:29:54.413 --> 00:29:55.085
on my phone.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3051-0
00:29:56.785 --> 00:29:58.275
What might work?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3053-0
00:29:58.985 --> 00:29:59.595
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3062-0
00:30:32.895 --> 00:30:33.605
Any joy?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3067-0
00:30:35.065 --> 00:30:36.325
Yeah. What we're looking for.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3070-0
00:30:37.165 --> 00:30:37.885
Pigeon.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3077-0
00:30:38.485 --> 00:30:40.375
Pigeon by Alice Conran.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3085-0
00:31:00.235 --> 00:31:01.345
OK. Yeah, got it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3089-0
00:31:01.655 --> 00:31:04.585
Brilliant. OK, so.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3103-0
00:31:07.135 --> 00:31:09.945
As with the other really
important thing, when you're

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3103-1
00:31:09.945 --> 00:31:10.985
writing about place.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3106-0
00:31:11.685 --> 00:31:13.755
Apart from being able to.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3133-0
00:31:15.405 --> 00:31:19.227
Show it from the perception of
of your lead characters is to

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3133-1
00:31:19.227 --> 00:31:23.174
have a really clear sense of the
geography that you're writing

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3133-2
00:31:23.174 --> 00:31:25.805
about. How how the space is fit
together.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3221-0
00:31:26.425 --> 00:31:30.202
How your characters will be from
1 space to the other, what they

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3221-1
00:31:30.202 --> 00:31:33.920
see on the way, what it's like
at different times of day. And I

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3221-2
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.406
think if you and you can keep
referring to that through the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3221-3
00:31:37.406 --> 00:31:40.833
course of the story, so the
reader gets a sort of sense of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3221-4
00:31:40.833 --> 00:31:44.377
believability and familiarity
and more. You build that up as

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3221-5
00:31:44.377 --> 00:31:48.095
well when you're your characters
stray beyond their boundaries,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3221-6
00:31:48.095 --> 00:31:51.813
perhaps into their known, that's
even more dramatic. But you'll

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3221-7
00:31:51.813 --> 00:31:55.067
start, you've you've kind of
established this connected

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3221-8
00:31:55.067 --> 00:31:55.415
world.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3262-0
00:31:56.065 --> 00:31:59.829
And it might be a world that you
is actually this actual

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3262-1
00:31:59.829 --> 00:32:03.924
somewhere that you know well,
but that you might just want to

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3262-2
00:32:03.924 --> 00:32:08.084
fictionalize it to some extent
and just keep the the framework

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3262-3
00:32:08.084 --> 00:32:11.385
if you like, of of the original
the actual place.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3265-0
00:32:12.745 --> 00:32:13.235
But then.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3275-0
00:32:14.895 --> 00:32:17.705
I'll try it, or developable.
Convey it poetically.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3298-0
00:32:18.445 --> 00:32:22.439
Which I think is very much what
happens in this extract. This is

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3298-1
00:32:22.439 --> 00:32:25.695
a novel by Alice Conran of
published 2017 I believe.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3307-0
00:32:26.675 --> 00:32:29.275
And I I don't want to. Has
anyone read it, by the way?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3317-0
00:32:30.125 --> 00:32:31.315
And not familiar with this book.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3313-0
00:32:30.195 --> 00:32:30.595
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3322-0
00:32:31.495 --> 00:32:31.795
No.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3328-0
00:32:32.105 --> 00:32:33.995
So for the extract.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3343-0
00:32:34.935 --> 00:32:38.583
If it renting extract yes. So I
don't want to give you too many

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3343-1
00:32:38.583 --> 00:32:40.635
spoilers then, but it's about
this.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3352-0
00:32:41.715 --> 00:32:46.885
Teenage boy from a slightly
dysfunctional background.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3357-0
00:32:49.305 --> 00:32:51.015
North Wales and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3374-0
00:32:54.325 --> 00:32:58.676
The relationships you makes it
and the kind of Rd. bizarre

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3374-1
00:32:58.676 --> 00:32:59.855
adventures that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3378-0
00:33:01.025 --> 00:33:02.195
He goes off on with his.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3382-0
00:33:03.085 --> 00:33:04.185
His best friend.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3390-0
00:33:05.465 --> 00:33:07.335
But Umm, I'll read this out for
you.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3401-0
00:33:09.275 --> 00:33:12.385
Pigeons scarce around the town
thinking of Gwynn.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3416-0
00:33:13.135 --> 00:33:16.129
Until the thoughts turned so
smudged their black like

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3416-1
00:33:16.129 --> 00:33:17.625
something burnt and ruined.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3432-0
00:33:18.545 --> 00:33:22.479
When that happens, pigeon starts
peering in through people's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3432-1
00:33:22.479 --> 00:33:24.155
windows looking for light.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3465-0
00:33:24.955 --> 00:33:29.916
He's a scavenger, a scavenger
for comfort. Day-to-day pigeon

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3465-1
00:33:29.916 --> 00:33:34.958
drags his feet around his Pebble
dashed Kingdom, non descript

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3465-2
00:33:34.958 --> 00:33:38.455
gloomy, the wrong end of
nowhere, perhaps.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3491-0
00:33:39.635 --> 00:33:43.709
But below the grey domain of
this hill, the patchwork fields

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3491-1
00:33:43.709 --> 00:33:47.315
stretched their expanse of
emerald down, sloping to a

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3491-2
00:33:47.315 --> 00:33:49.385
silver sea of torn paper waves.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3529-0
00:33:50.055 --> 00:33:54.352
And above, above the hill, there
are the crouching mountains for

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3529-1
00:33:54.352 --> 00:33:58.648
their lakes like broken mirrors
wedged between valleys along the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3529-2
00:33:58.648 --> 00:34:02.416
tops of the plated ridges.
There's that trembling pencil

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3529-3
00:34:02.416 --> 00:34:03.275
line horizon.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3538-0
00:34:04.255 --> 00:34:06.905
It's worth a second look just
briefly.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3568-0
00:34:08.165 --> 00:34:12.390
So here, here's pigeon again.
Here, grey. Just a sketch. The

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3568-1
00:34:12.390 --> 00:34:16.337
boy whose face is sallow.
There's a star at his lips and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3568-2
00:34:16.337 --> 00:34:19.245
his shoulders are delicate as
egg shells.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3590-0
00:34:19.885 --> 00:34:24.430
Pigeon here on the hill wanders
the Pebble Dash, Pebble Dash,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3590-1
00:34:24.430 --> 00:34:28.975
scuffing his feet up the hill
and then up between the houses.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3611-0
00:34:29.985 --> 00:34:33.340
Pigeon goes right up to the top
of the hill to where you can sit

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3611-1
00:34:33.340 --> 00:34:36.024
and look down at the town at
all, spread out like a

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3611-2
00:34:36.024 --> 00:34:36.695
handkerchief.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3617-0
00:34:39.455 --> 00:34:40.795
Pigeon spits at it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3650-0
00:34:41.645 --> 00:34:45.554
Time my cat's got a mouse. You
can spit a long way down, but

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3650-1
00:34:45.554 --> 00:34:49.654
still the gob of spit lands on
the grass just below him and the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3650-2
00:34:49.654 --> 00:34:50.935
town is still there.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3663-0
00:34:51.775 --> 00:34:55.262
Pigeon sits on the hill, legs
crossed, watching the day

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3663-1
00:34:55.262 --> 00:34:56.195
turning slowly.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3688-0
00:34:57.155 --> 00:35:00.850
When his legs are cold through
the school trousers, pigeons

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3688-1
00:35:00.850 --> 00:35:04.730
stands, shakes out his legs and
starts back down for the town.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3688-2
00:35:04.730 --> 00:35:06.885
The houses in their higgledy
rose.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3710-0
00:35:07.505 --> 00:35:11.258
He walks back into it, into the
pattern of the town and scuffs

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3710-1
00:35:11.258 --> 00:35:14.355
along the streets between the
shapes of the houses.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3739-0
00:35:15.845 --> 00:35:20.030
He stopped at one that's off
balance. It skew with crooked

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3739-1
00:35:20.030 --> 00:35:24.144
bits and pieces of it shoot out
in all directions, like a

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3739-2
00:35:24.144 --> 00:35:25.775
peculiar, mangled ship.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3749-0
00:35:26.685 --> 00:35:30.065
It's pigeons house outside is
pigeon shed.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3755-0
00:35:30.765 --> 00:35:32.275
That pigeonhole.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3769-0
00:35:33.645 --> 00:35:37.335
Pigeon avoids the house and goes
straight round to his shed.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3792-0
00:35:39.135 --> 00:35:43.753
Back in the good days, the house
was chaotic, a tangle of words

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3792-1
00:35:43.753 --> 00:35:47.505
and arguments and conversations,
even and even fun.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3805-0
00:35:48.445 --> 00:35:52.165
At this very particular day back
then in the House and spring.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3848-0
00:35:52.855 --> 00:35:56.405
Was her birthday and pigeons man
had put on such a beautiful

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3848-1
00:35:56.405 --> 00:35:59.895
dress and in the dress she was
spinning and spinning in the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3848-2
00:35:59.895 --> 00:36:03.212
kitchen so that the pretty
flowers on the dress streaked

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3848-3
00:36:03.212 --> 00:36:06.819
through the air and a dish was
knocked off the drain board by

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3848-4
00:36:06.819 --> 00:36:08.855
the spinning flowers on the
dress.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3865-0
00:36:09.565 --> 00:36:13.587
And that day, she just laughed
that day in her laugh, it was

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3865-1
00:36:13.587 --> 00:36:15.235
easy, like a soft breeze.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3875-0
00:36:16.055 --> 00:36:20.285
So pretty pigeons, man like a
ghost, but pretty.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3881-0
00:36:21.575 --> 00:36:23.185
Pigeon crew member that day.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3901-0
00:36:23.855 --> 00:36:27.173
Pigeon can still remember, and
he tells his mum about it,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3901-1
00:36:27.173 --> 00:36:30.605
sitting on his bed in the shed
in the falling night to this

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3901-2
00:36:30.605 --> 00:36:31.005
Sunday.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3934-0
00:36:32.055 --> 00:36:35.998
And she's quiet, but she's
strokes his hair as he lays his

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3934-1
00:36:35.998 --> 00:36:40.274
head on her lap as he talks and
her hands are soft as feathers.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3934-2
00:36:40.274 --> 00:36:43.815
So that pigeon doesn't know if
they're there at all.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3952-0
00:36:44.465 --> 00:36:48.357
A hands are like fairies and so
is she, so that she might

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3952-1
00:36:48.357 --> 00:36:51.175
disappear, fade, be taken
somewhere else.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3962-0
00:36:51.885 --> 00:36:54.155
Pigeon smiles at her to keep her
with him.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3980-0
00:36:54.845 --> 00:36:59.193
And hand stroking his hair feel
a little more real on the bed

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/3980-1
00:36:59.193 --> 00:37:00.595
and the almost dark.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4006-0
00:37:01.895 --> 00:37:05.627
Pigeon keeps his man there and
he's important, holds him her

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4006-1
00:37:05.627 --> 00:37:09.481
hand. Now on the bed, smiling at
her and telling her about his

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4006-2
00:37:09.481 --> 00:37:09.725
day.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4040-0
00:37:10.455 --> 00:37:14.685
And she asked him no questions
and he talks on and on, although

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4040-1
00:37:14.685 --> 00:37:18.517
she looks as if she doesn't
understand her grey look, the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4040-2
00:37:18.517 --> 00:37:22.085
words of evaporating away into
the cloud of her eyes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4079-0
00:37:23.175 --> 00:37:26.770
On the bottom of the river,
there's a load of junk, man, he

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4079-1
00:37:26.770 --> 00:37:30.364
tells her in Welsh painting a
picture of what he's seen the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4079-2
00:37:30.364 --> 00:37:34.258
rubbish, the tipped thrown away,
toys of belongings clogging the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4079-3
00:37:34.258 --> 00:37:36.175
river at the bottom of the hill.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4093-0
00:37:36.875 --> 00:37:40.509
The things people have thrown
away as if they want nothing

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4093-1
00:37:40.509 --> 00:37:42.295
now, as if they need nothing.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4101-0
00:37:43.295 --> 00:37:46.185
Does she understand? Is she
interested in him?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4132-0
00:37:47.345 --> 00:37:51.651
There are never any questions,
never an explanations. But as he

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4132-1
00:37:51.651 --> 00:37:55.888
talks, friggin feels her hands
grow heavier in his so he keeps

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4132-2
00:37:55.888 --> 00:37:59.655
talking till she kisses his hair
and it's time for bed.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4136-0
00:38:01.785 --> 00:38:03.015
Before he came.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4158-0
00:38:03.645 --> 00:38:07.561
Pigeon smiled, missus steam.
Seamstress. She sewed at home.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4158-1
00:38:07.561 --> 00:38:09.845
She made dresses for other
people.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4176-0
00:38:10.645 --> 00:38:14.585
Now see the dresses as they
still hang in the dark lounge

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4176-1
00:38:14.585 --> 00:38:17.505
under plastic coats like bodies
strangled.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4206-0
00:38:18.255 --> 00:38:23.040
Underneath the plastic, they're
all the colours of the world,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4206-1
00:38:23.040 --> 00:38:27.516
shiny, flat, soft, shimmery. See
through materials called

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4206-2
00:38:27.516 --> 00:38:30.525
beautiful names, chiffon, silk,
satin.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4219-0
00:38:31.265 --> 00:38:34.455
And pictured expected to see
pretty girls in the dresses.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4219-1
00:38:34.455 --> 00:38:35.005
Beautiful.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4241-0
00:38:35.675 --> 00:38:39.645
But the ones who came in to get
the moves UK and never as pretty

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4241-1
00:38:39.645 --> 00:38:43.125
as his man? No, never as pretty
as she when she laughed.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4250-0
00:38:43.815 --> 00:38:46.515
Although it wasn't now, so very
often that she laughed.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4254-0
00:38:47.435 --> 00:38:48.655
Before he came.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4265-0
00:38:49.275 --> 00:38:53.721
Pigeon was inside pigeons,
bedrooms upstairs before he

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4265-1
00:38:53.721 --> 00:38:54.125
came.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4276-0
00:38:55.095 --> 00:38:58.345
Became bringing chair and her
silence in the shed.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4287-0
00:38:59.775 --> 00:39:03.135
When he first moved in, they got
off to a bad start.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4324-0
00:39:04.165 --> 00:39:08.024
Pitched was sitting on the sofa,
or rather, he was draped over

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4324-1
00:39:08.024 --> 00:39:11.822
the sofa, lording over the room.
His train has kicked off and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4324-2
00:39:11.822 --> 00:39:15.252
strewn on the floor was reading
a book was a book about

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4324-3
00:39:15.252 --> 00:39:15.925
aeroplanes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4334-0
00:39:16.815 --> 00:39:20.915
Back then, that was what pigeon
liked aeroplanes back then.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4340-0
00:39:21.945 --> 00:39:23.775
Pigeons man brought him round.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4382-0
00:39:25.065 --> 00:39:29.111
At that time, she still went out
at that freewheeling time, still

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4382-1
00:39:29.111 --> 00:39:33.157
went for the shopping of her own
free will, still took a bus into

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4382-2
00:39:33.157 --> 00:39:36.773
town. She had a friend who she
met once a week to exchange

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4382-3
00:39:36.773 --> 00:39:39.225
dress patterns, have a cup of
tea talk.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4384-0
00:39:40.025 --> 00:39:40.355
2.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4390-0
00:39:41.125 --> 00:39:42.655
Back then, she did that too.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4403-0
00:39:43.375 --> 00:39:46.311
Usually when she returned to the
house, she'd come in through the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4403-1
00:39:46.311 --> 00:39:46.755
back door.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4452-0
00:39:47.515 --> 00:39:51.487
Like a lot of people, they left
the front door for visitors,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4452-1
00:39:51.487 --> 00:39:55.458
although they never had any and
the ones they did, my killa,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4452-2
00:39:55.458 --> 00:39:59.039
came round the back too. So
usually the front door was

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4452-3
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.945
almost just a wall, something
that never moved, never open.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4466-0
00:40:04.315 --> 00:40:07.895
Pigeon sat upright when he heard
a tea key, turning in the front

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4466-1
00:40:07.895 --> 00:40:08.665
door that day.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4482-0
00:40:09.325 --> 00:40:12.989
You knew it was trouble when it
was the front door, the police,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4482-1
00:40:12.989 --> 00:40:15.565
the social worker, some kids
playing pranks.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4493-0
00:40:16.585 --> 00:40:19.753
It took her a while to get to
key into the knock and even

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4493-1
00:40:19.753 --> 00:40:20.735
longer to turn it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4511-0
00:40:21.485 --> 00:40:25.429
Pigeon heard her apologizing, so
there was some one with her. And

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4511-1
00:40:25.429 --> 00:40:28.475
sorry, I was sorry, she said.
Fumbly with the key.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4522-0
00:40:29.415 --> 00:40:32.745
Then there was a man's voice
saying I'll do it. I'll do it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4546-0
00:40:33.565 --> 00:40:37.076
And then Pigeon got to his feet,
walked down the hall and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4546-1
00:40:37.076 --> 00:40:40.829
wrenched the door open, making
the first crack in the door as

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4546-2
00:40:40.829 --> 00:40:41.615
he yanked it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4556-0
00:40:42.325 --> 00:40:46.155
Oh, she said. Ohh, said the man.
Ohh, said pigeon.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4565-0
00:40:47.195 --> 00:40:49.485
Pigeon this is how you dream,
she said in English.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4573-0
00:40:50.185 --> 00:40:52.455
Hi. What's your name again, son?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4582-0
00:40:53.375 --> 00:40:56.405
Pigeon didn't like the way sun
sounded. Pigeon.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4587-0
00:40:57.915 --> 00:40:59.435
High pigeon, he said.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4597-0
00:41:00.455 --> 00:41:02.875
And when he smiled, he didn't
believe it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4602-0
00:41:03.925 --> 00:41:05.065
OK, I'll stop that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4607-0
00:41:06.575 --> 00:41:07.795
Let's go back to the top.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4617-0
00:41:09.125 --> 00:41:12.615
OK, looked here. Going on with
the place isn't there?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4626-0
00:41:14.355 --> 00:41:18.285
Let's have a look at that first.
This first opening paragraphs.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4633-0
00:41:18.915 --> 00:41:20.535
Pigeon spots around the town.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4629-0
00:41:19.055 --> 00:41:19.365
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4638-0
00:41:21.625 --> 00:41:22.645
Take a look at those.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4644-0
00:41:25.075 --> 00:41:26.605
What do you think about the way
that?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4651-0
00:41:27.285 --> 00:41:29.765
Places is presented here.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4655-0
00:41:31.215 --> 00:41:32.245
Kind of image.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4660-0
00:41:36.145 --> 00:41:37.375
Any thoughts anybody?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4665-0
00:41:39.965 --> 00:41:41.255
He's very much alone.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4667-0
00:41:42.675 --> 00:41:43.105
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4690-0
00:41:47.385 --> 00:41:50.925
So yeah, he's he's already
spending a lot of time in his

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4690-1
00:41:50.925 --> 00:41:53.905
own on his own and kind of in
his own head and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4693-0
00:41:54.615 --> 00:41:56.275
Yeah. Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4703-0
00:41:59.125 --> 00:42:02.295
Yeah, just thought that
scavenging for but.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4707-0
00:42:09.305 --> 00:42:09.575
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4730-0
00:42:10.315 --> 00:42:14.125
Think the town is depicted as
not particularly attractive? I

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4730-1
00:42:14.125 --> 00:42:17.871
mean, pebbledash generally is
quite a pejorative term these

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4730-2
00:42:17.871 --> 00:42:18.745
days, I think.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4808-0
00:42:20.705 --> 00:42:24.177
But to like lots of Welsh
places, there's obviously beauty

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4808-1
00:42:24.177 --> 00:42:27.413
just outside. And the
description of the hills and the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4808-2
00:42:27.413 --> 00:42:31.178
broken Mirror lakes and things
like that is lovely. But I think

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4808-3
00:42:31.178 --> 00:42:34.767
that's very true, that it's
worth a second look sort of just

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4808-4
00:42:34.767 --> 00:42:38.651
about because you do get used to
it, don't you? And he's grown up

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4808-5
00:42:38.651 --> 00:42:42.299
there. So it's just there for
him. He's he's not gonna go out

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4808-6
00:42:42.299 --> 00:42:45.888
everyday and think ohh look at
the lovely hills that they're

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4808-7
00:42:45.888 --> 00:42:47.005
they're just there.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4807-0
00:42:46.325 --> 00:42:46.695
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4832-0
00:42:48.365 --> 00:42:52.203
They're very poetically
described alike. The of the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4832-1
00:42:52.203 --> 00:42:56.557
pencil sort of horizon image and
things like that. So very

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4836-0
00:42:55.945 --> 00:42:59.175
Umm, but it's a lovely paragraph
though, isn't it?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4832-2
00:42:56.557 --> 00:42:57.295
beautiful.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4843-0
00:43:00.365 --> 00:43:02.435
It's beautiful. Yeah, it is.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4862-0
00:43:05.655 --> 00:43:09.284
But it's very much conveyed from
his point of view, isn't it?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4862-1
00:43:09.284 --> 00:43:11.975
Which is kind of quite an
interesting way to.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4876-0
00:43:13.895 --> 00:43:16.999
To represent a teenager, I think
because there there is this kind

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4876-1
00:43:16.999 --> 00:43:17.845
of lyricism to it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4878-0
00:43:19.565 --> 00:43:19.925
But.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4886-0
00:43:20.775 --> 00:43:23.665
I think it's wild, but with the
kind of images she evokes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4888-0
00:43:24.835 --> 00:43:25.325
I don't know.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4890-0
00:43:25.535 --> 00:43:26.055
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4925-0
00:43:29.795 --> 00:43:33.467
I mean the slightly recall Dylan
Thomas, I can get away the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4925-1
00:43:33.467 --> 00:43:37.323
emerald down sloping to a silver
sea of torn paper waves. It's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4925-2
00:43:37.323 --> 00:43:40.015
got that that kind of lilt to
it, isn't it?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4926-0
00:43:40.165 --> 00:43:40.585
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4929-0
00:43:41.545 --> 00:43:42.345
Ohm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4953-0
00:43:44.305 --> 00:43:48.084
And I think it's very physical
in the way that the landscapes

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4953-1
00:43:48.084 --> 00:43:51.435
invoked. But if you look at
those images, they're all.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4968-0
00:43:54.925 --> 00:44:00.865
Torn paper waves patchwork,
broken mirrors, wedged, platted.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4973-0
00:44:01.565 --> 00:44:03.045
What does that invoke to you?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4989-0
00:44:05.815 --> 00:44:10.502
It is kinda good onto the
seamstress theme that that, you

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/4989-1
00:44:10.502 --> 00:44:12.845
know, his mothers occupation.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5004-0
00:44:14.135 --> 00:44:18.175
Umm yeah, there's that isn't
there? Yeah. And that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5053-0
00:44:17.515 --> 00:44:22.465
That there's a there's a
brokenness, isn't there? There's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5053-1
00:44:22.465 --> 00:44:27.415
a bits, pieces, scatterings of
things, so I suppose an an

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5021-0
00:44:26.325 --> 00:44:26.725
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5053-2
00:44:27.415 --> 00:44:32.877
adelic backdrop would be perhaps
more smoothly invoked, whereas

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5036-0
00:44:32.455 --> 00:44:33.595
Yeah, exactly.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5053-3
00:44:32.877 --> 00:44:37.827
this is and and it has a put
together feeling, doesn't it

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5040-0
00:44:34.305 --> 00:44:34.615
Yes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5053-4
00:44:37.827 --> 00:44:38.595
with the.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5083-0
00:44:38.845 --> 00:44:42.992
Yes, yes, yes. So it's it's kind
of like almost like children's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5083-1
00:44:42.992 --> 00:44:46.945
craft, isn't it? Things patch
together and but, but actually

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5083-2
00:44:46.945 --> 00:44:49.795
quite damaged, torn, broken,
broken rivers.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5085-0
00:44:51.865 --> 00:44:52.355
And.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5087-0
00:44:53.555 --> 00:44:54.175
So.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5115-0
00:44:56.845 --> 00:45:00.728
That description is is also
saying several things. I think

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5115-1
00:45:00.728 --> 00:45:04.611
metaphorically about place
itself. So like you say, it's a

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5115-2
00:45:04.611 --> 00:45:07.835
kind of a damaged version of the
pastor, a deal.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5123-0
00:45:08.485 --> 00:45:10.605
The kind of the tourist version
of Wales.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5125-0
00:45:11.555 --> 00:45:12.095
And.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5143-0
00:45:13.045 --> 00:45:16.136
Even though at the same time
it's beautiful, and perhaps it's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5143-1
00:45:16.136 --> 00:45:19.326
saying something about the kind
of the world that he's grown up

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5143-2
00:45:19.326 --> 00:45:19.475
in.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5147-0
00:45:20.285 --> 00:45:20.905
The.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5146-0
00:45:20.355 --> 00:45:20.665
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5153-0
00:45:21.545 --> 00:45:23.595
The limitations are slightly
dysfunctional.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5157-0
00:45:24.375 --> 00:45:25.385
Nature of it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5166-0
00:45:26.705 --> 00:45:27.605
But supposedly.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5179-0
00:45:26.815 --> 00:45:29.870
I think there is a sort of.
There's someone who lives in the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5179-1
00:45:29.870 --> 00:45:32.825
house. I think there's a there
is an inside of it too that

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5179-2
00:45:32.825 --> 00:45:33.225
because.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5270-0
00:45:34.955 --> 00:45:39.025
It's like where I live is the
sort of place where people come

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5270-1
00:45:39.025 --> 00:45:42.899
on holiday and oh, it's so
beautiful and everything and it

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5270-2
00:45:42.899 --> 00:45:46.903
is sort of beautiful from a
distant actually isn't beautiful

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5270-3
00:45:46.903 --> 00:45:50.973
in anything like the Cotswolds
kind of way. And there's a lot

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5219-0
00:45:48.705 --> 00:45:50.165
Right, yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5270-4
00:45:50.973 --> 00:45:55.306
of harshness and roughness about
it. And so sometimes when people

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5224-0
00:45:51.385 --> 00:45:51.615
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5226-0
00:45:52.185 --> 00:45:52.585
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5270-5
00:45:55.306 --> 00:45:59.441
say, ohh, you're you're idyllic
area and you really do sort of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5270-6
00:45:59.441 --> 00:46:03.314
think I'm. I'm not sure that
that's the right word you you

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5259-0
00:46:03.175 --> 00:46:03.695
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5270-7
00:46:03.314 --> 00:46:06.465
know but it but it is beautiful
and we we know.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5264-0
00:46:04.445 --> 00:46:04.755
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5287-0
00:46:07.055 --> 00:46:10.876
We know with the reality of it
and they're still here, and I

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5287-1
00:46:10.876 --> 00:46:12.755
think there's meaning to that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5290-0
00:46:12.775 --> 00:46:14.755
Hmm. Hmm. Exact.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5299-0
00:46:14.825 --> 00:46:18.195
OK, so So what we have going on
here is.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5306-0
00:46:18.985 --> 00:46:21.445
Place being invoked in a very
sensory way but.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5308-0
00:46:22.815 --> 00:46:23.235
But.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5310-0
00:46:24.095 --> 00:46:24.825
Also.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5328-0
00:46:27.005 --> 00:46:30.019
In a metaphorical way that's
saying something like the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5328-1
00:46:30.019 --> 00:46:32.485
character about the background
about whales.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5330-0
00:46:33.265 --> 00:46:33.735
And.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5336-0
00:46:34.865 --> 00:46:36.085
Unless you say it's.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5357-0
00:46:37.105 --> 00:46:41.035
One of an in very organically
excuse can't, because that's the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5357-1
00:46:41.035 --> 00:46:43.155
idea of the steam stress as
well.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5364-0
00:46:44.445 --> 00:46:46.805
Pebble dashing things cobbled
together.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5371-0
00:46:48.505 --> 00:46:49.555
So there's a lot, a lot of.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5391-0
00:46:50.235 --> 00:46:54.971
Very exact. If you'd like
sociological description is

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5391-1
00:46:54.971 --> 00:46:59.355
there? It's it's it's kind of
quite symbolic and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5396-0
00:47:00.365 --> 00:47:01.735
Facultative and that way.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5402-0
00:47:04.115 --> 00:47:05.535
Yeah, it shows that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5403-0
00:47:04.575 --> 00:47:05.495
Further down.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5418-0
00:47:06.175 --> 00:47:10.365
You know, he lives in this lands
today, but himself as.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5416-0
00:47:08.985 --> 00:47:10.065
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5420-0
00:47:11.985 --> 00:47:12.435
See it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5430-0
00:47:13.795 --> 00:47:15.235
From ways but then it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5425-0
00:47:13.835 --> 00:47:14.215
Yep.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5434-0
00:47:16.625 --> 00:47:17.855
So reflecting.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5440-0
00:47:18.495 --> 00:47:19.995
Ohh I'd broken.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5443-0
00:47:21.035 --> 00:47:21.855
He is.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5484-0
00:47:22.995 --> 00:47:27.454
Yep. Yes, exactly. Well, put.
Delicate as I've shells, it says

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00:47:27.454 --> 00:47:31.629
on near the bottom packet
between doesn't it? So it's like

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5461-0
00:47:28.985 --> 00:47:29.465
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5484-2
00:47:31.629 --> 00:47:36.088
he could shatter any minute or
or this kind of patch together.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5484-3
00:47:36.088 --> 00:47:38.635
Landscape could shatter any
minute.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5486-0
00:47:39.905 --> 00:47:40.365
And.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5495-0
00:47:42.725 --> 00:47:45.555
So the descriptions for the down
page 15.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5498-0
00:47:47.245 --> 00:47:47.825
Is it?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5503-0
00:47:49.435 --> 00:47:52.125
It talks about Higgledy,
piggledy, rose and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5510-0
00:47:53.465 --> 00:47:55.895
Everything's off balance and
skew whiff.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5512-0
00:47:56.685 --> 00:47:57.215
And.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5552-0
00:47:59.385 --> 00:48:03.514
First, I don't know if you seen
those kind of naive paintings of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5552-1
00:48:03.514 --> 00:48:07.451
Welsh landscapes where I can't
remember the names of artists,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5552-2
00:48:07.451 --> 00:48:11.579
but where the kind of everything
is kind of perspective is wrong

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5552-3
00:48:11.579 --> 00:48:14.945
and everything's sticking out at
strange angles and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5551-0
00:48:14.965 --> 00:48:15.615
Ohh yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5557-0
00:48:16.065 --> 00:48:17.415
That isn't it. So it's.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5576-0
00:48:19.765 --> 00:48:22.952
So it's building as much as a
visual picture. It's building

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5576-1
00:48:22.952 --> 00:48:25.925
emotional picture, I think,
isn't it? She's doing here.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5591-0
00:48:27.365 --> 00:48:31.279
And and then she carries that
over into. She talked about the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5591-1
00:48:31.279 --> 00:48:34.435
house was chaotic, tangle of
words and arguments.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5610-0
00:48:35.185 --> 00:48:38.200
So some of the nature of the
landscape is then woven into

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5610-1
00:48:38.200 --> 00:48:40.695
hashes, describes the house and
the life in it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5623-0
00:48:42.605 --> 00:48:45.851
So if you can see what's going
on here is that she's taking

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5623-1
00:48:45.851 --> 00:48:46.445
place. But.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5633-0
00:48:47.645 --> 00:48:50.565
She's characterized it in a
particular way. That's.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5659-0
00:48:51.735 --> 00:48:55.385
Metaphoric as well as clearly
descriptive, and that she's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5659-1
00:48:55.385 --> 00:48:59.223
taking those ideas and she's
passed them over into different

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5659-2
00:48:59.223 --> 00:49:02.999
aspects of the fiction. Like,
that's why they talked in the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5659-3
00:49:02.999 --> 00:49:04.005
house. And then.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5664-0
00:49:08.465 --> 00:49:10.055
I'm much further down.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5670-0
00:49:11.625 --> 00:49:14.735
When she introduces her
boyfriend, Page 17, then.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5683-0
00:49:15.915 --> 00:49:19.567
Again, it comes back to balance
the balances tipped when you're

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5683-1
00:49:19.567 --> 00:49:20.765
used to be, you know.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5698-0
00:49:21.835 --> 00:49:25.571
The one in control the man in
the house if you like. And then

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5698-1
00:49:25.571 --> 00:49:26.655
he's displaced by.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5701-0
00:49:27.495 --> 00:49:28.305
Adrian who?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5711-0
00:49:29.045 --> 00:49:31.095
Period on turns out to be quite
abusive.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5713-0
00:49:32.235 --> 00:49:32.735
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5719-0
00:49:34.235 --> 00:49:36.505
So it's taking place and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5729-0
00:49:38.275 --> 00:49:40.685
Using those ideas, it means a
place.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5741-0
00:49:42.255 --> 00:49:45.078
To express the characters to
express the dynamics of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5741-1
00:49:45.078 --> 00:49:46.355
different relationships.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5747-0
00:49:51.005 --> 00:49:52.295
To express the way of life.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5749-0
00:49:57.365 --> 00:49:57.815
Right.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5760-0
00:49:59.055 --> 00:50:01.845
Does anybody want to say
anything else about this piece?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5769-0
00:50:12.215 --> 00:50:13.485
That's OK, you don't have to.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5773-0
00:50:15.375 --> 00:50:16.625
All right. OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5776-0
00:50:18.105 --> 00:50:18.755
Let's.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5785-0
00:50:20.145 --> 00:50:23.305
Do you need to break guys? Do
you want to take 10 minutes?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5794-0
00:50:24.965 --> 00:50:26.795
Yeah, I could. I could do the
competency.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5805-0
00:50:27.245 --> 00:50:31.695
Yeah, OK. Two minutes. Report
for now. How long do you need?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5807-0
00:50:33.575 --> 00:50:34.185
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5820-0
00:50:34.785 --> 00:50:38.249
Was she coming back at 11:30 and
that gives us a very precise 13

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5820-1
00:50:38.249 --> 00:50:38.675
minutes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5831-0
00:50:39.005 --> 00:50:42.125
OK, alright. Well, we I'll just
leave everything running.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5828-0
00:50:41.055 --> 00:50:41.355
We have.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5832-0
00:50:42.625 --> 00:50:43.175
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5834-0
00:50:43.305 --> 00:50:43.605
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5876-0
00:50:44.025 --> 00:50:47.931
OK. And then we'll, we'll look
at and then after that we'll

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5876-1
00:50:47.931 --> 00:50:52.031
have a look at the goldfinch as
well. I think you were part of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5856-0
00:50:50.785 --> 00:50:51.235
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5876-2
00:50:52.031 --> 00:50:56.326
the goldfinch. And then we'll if
you've got the stamina, we'll do

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5870-0
00:50:56.305 --> 00:50:56.695
Right.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/5876-3
00:50:56.326 --> 00:50:59.385
an exercise. OK. See you back
here at half 11.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6128-0
01:03:26.655 --> 01:03:27.275
Oh.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6141-0
01:03:41.315 --> 01:03:44.585
All right, everyone back. I'll
just turn my camera on.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6148-0
01:03:46.855 --> 01:03:48.875
Hello are you feeling refreshed?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6155-0
01:03:51.185 --> 01:03:52.835
It's OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6173-0
01:03:55.395 --> 01:04:00.674
Can I just check? Did you all in
the end get the e-mail I sent

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6173-1
01:04:00.674 --> 01:04:02.265
with an attachment?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6178-0
01:04:04.165 --> 01:04:04.665
Ohh.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6179-0
01:04:04.355 --> 01:04:05.435
Yes, I did.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6186-0
01:04:06.815 --> 01:04:07.865
I haven't checked.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6191-0
01:04:07.295 --> 01:04:09.215
Don't say I'll just if I can
open it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6193-0
01:04:10.345 --> 01:04:10.795
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6200-0
01:04:18.385 --> 01:04:20.475
Yes, I can open it and
everything.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6210-0
01:04:20.565 --> 01:04:25.765
Yes. So and and did you show
other Joe, Joe Toft?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6214-0
01:04:27.135 --> 01:04:28.225
I'm just waiting for.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6222-0
01:04:35.595 --> 01:04:37.645
Quotes fiction class, is that
it?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6228-0
01:04:38.065 --> 01:04:39.435
Yeah, that's the one, yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6240-0
01:04:40.575 --> 01:04:45.433
OK, everyone's got that. OK.
Well, in that case, let's look

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6240-1
01:04:45.433 --> 01:04:45.675
at.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6254-0
01:04:46.475 --> 01:04:49.802
Piece I wanted to look at
earlier and couldn't open on

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6254-1
01:04:49.802 --> 01:04:50.165
teams.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6265-0
01:04:50.965 --> 01:04:54.475
So I apologize for this like
messiness of this.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6267-0
01:04:55.875 --> 01:04:56.645
Right.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6276-0
01:04:58.445 --> 01:05:02.185
So if you Scroll down until you
get.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6279-0
01:05:05.415 --> 01:05:06.325
To.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6283-0
01:05:06.445 --> 01:05:08.865
Umm, the section beginning?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6294-0
01:05:10.875 --> 01:05:12.955
Are you opening this like that?
You've emailed?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6289-0
01:05:10.885 --> 01:05:11.345
The clinic.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6304-0
01:05:13.525 --> 01:05:17.925
Yeah, yeah, I'm like, alright,
isn't it?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6302-0
01:05:14.965 --> 01:05:16.375
Sorry I'm slow.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6311-0
01:05:18.455 --> 01:05:20.245
Umm so.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6314-0
01:05:19.675 --> 01:05:21.105
Ohh I haven't done that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6318-0
01:05:22.135 --> 01:05:22.985
You haven't got it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6321-0
01:05:23.255 --> 01:05:23.775
No.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6323-0
01:05:24.645 --> 01:05:25.145
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6343-0
01:05:26.215 --> 01:05:29.519
Alright. OK, we'll we'll go back
and look at the goldfinch

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6343-1
01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:30.695
instead in that case.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6346-0
01:05:32.135 --> 01:05:33.025
But I will.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6356-0
01:05:36.465 --> 01:05:39.175
I'll send you notes to go along
with.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6365-0
01:05:40.235 --> 01:05:42.665
Fat document that I sent you so
you know.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6378-0
01:05:43.815 --> 01:05:48.955
What the purpose of it is? OK,
so can everyone get onto the?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6387-0
01:05:50.385 --> 01:05:52.875
The goldfinch on Moodle.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6390-0
01:05:54.345 --> 01:05:55.485
Unable to do that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6393-0
01:05:57.225 --> 01:05:57.765
Yep.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6396-0
01:05:58.585 --> 01:05:59.035
Yes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6409-0
01:06:01.295 --> 01:06:04.704
All right, I've I won't read
this because it's quite long,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6409-1
01:06:04.704 --> 01:06:04.935
but.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6433-0
01:06:05.715 --> 01:06:09.389
We'll just take a look at some
of the ways that she's invoking

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6433-1
01:06:09.389 --> 01:06:11.955
place. Has anybody read the
goldfinch? Was.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6440-0
01:06:12.635 --> 01:06:14.955
Are known thing about Donna
Tart?

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01:06:21.055 --> 01:06:25.034
OK, there's quite a famous novel
published a few years ago. If

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6458-1
01:06:25.034 --> 01:06:28.887
you haven't read it, I don't
really want to tell you all the

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01:06:28.887 --> 01:06:29.265
story.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6468-0
01:06:30.615 --> 01:06:33.295
But it's rather similar to the
pigeon, and that it's about.

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01:06:34.675 --> 01:06:36.415
Teenage boys, actually 13.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6509-0
01:06:38.115 --> 01:06:42.369
Who's been living with his
mother and as an absent father

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6509-1
01:06:42.369 --> 01:06:47.209
who, when he did leave them with
some basically quite abusive. So

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6509-2
01:06:47.209 --> 01:06:50.435
it's very, very attached to his
mother and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6514-0
01:06:51.535 --> 01:06:53.225
And she dies in.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6518-0
01:06:54.825 --> 01:06:56.315
Terrorist attack in.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6527-0
01:06:58.305 --> 01:07:00.745
I think some new Museum of
Modern Art, which they.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6530-0
01:07:01.405 --> 01:07:01.775
Both.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6540-0
01:07:02.965 --> 01:07:06.498
Happened to pop into one day and
by the sudden change of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6540-1
01:07:06.498 --> 01:07:07.365
circumstances.

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01:07:08.475 --> 01:07:12.235
And he survives while he's in
the museum.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6563-0
01:07:14.685 --> 01:07:19.595
He he helps one of the injured
people, that old man.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6573-0
01:07:22.615 --> 01:07:25.579
With his kind of final moments
and the old mind gives him a

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6573-1
01:07:25.579 --> 01:07:25.825
ring.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6581-0
01:07:26.955 --> 01:07:29.015
And quite a lot of things
happen, but anyway.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6589-0
01:07:30.575 --> 01:07:33.215
Theo, who is the boy's contrives
to?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6597-0
01:07:34.655 --> 01:07:37.245
Take the ring to the people who.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6606-0
01:07:40.005 --> 01:07:43.875
Originally gave it to the old
man and.

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01:07:45.145 --> 01:07:48.339
So the episode we're looking at
is when he brings it back and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6620-1
01:07:48.339 --> 01:07:49.575
it's to an antique shop.

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01:07:50.895 --> 01:07:51.925
Slow West side.

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01:07:54.765 --> 01:07:59.538
So this is from. It's narrated
by the boy from his point of

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01:07:59.538 --> 01:07:59.935
view.

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01:08:03.005 --> 01:08:07.361
Wilderness of guilt gleaming in
the slant from the dust Ford

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01:08:07.361 --> 01:08:11.645
windows, gilded Cupid's gilded
commodes and torture air and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6683-2
01:08:11.645 --> 01:08:16.000
undercutting the old wood smell
the reek of turpentine, oil,

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01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:17.285
paint and varnish.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6709-0
01:08:18.355 --> 01:08:22.086
I followed him through the
workshop along a path swept in

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6709-1
01:08:22.086 --> 01:08:26.010
the sawdust, past pegboard and
tools, dismembered chairs and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6709-2
01:08:26.010 --> 01:08:29.355
clawful tables sprawled with
their legs in the air.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6733-0
01:08:30.385 --> 01:08:33.606
Though a big man, he was
graceful. A floater. My mother

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6733-1
01:08:33.606 --> 01:08:37.173
would have called him something
effortless and gliding in the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6733-2
01:08:37.173 --> 01:08:38.495
way he carried himself.

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01:08:39.485 --> 01:08:43.776
With my eyes on the heels of his
lipid feet, I followed him up

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01:08:43.776 --> 01:08:47.999
some narrow stairs and into a
dim room, richly carpeted where

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6772-2
01:08:47.999 --> 01:08:52.017
black earns stood on pedestals
and tussled. Draperies were

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01:08:52.017 --> 01:08:53.515
drawn against the sun.

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01:08:55.055 --> 01:08:58.395
Of the silence. My heart went
cold.

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01:08:59.115 --> 01:09:03.623
Dead flowers stood rotting in
the massive Chinese vases, vases

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6801-1
01:09:03.623 --> 01:09:06.985
and a shut up heaviness over
weighed the room.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6834-0
01:09:07.675 --> 01:09:12.300
The ad was too stale to breathe.
The exact suffocating feel of

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01:09:12.300 --> 01:09:17.070
our apartment, but Missus Barber
took me back to Sutton place to

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6834-2
01:09:17.070 --> 01:09:18.905
get some things I needed.

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01:09:20.135 --> 01:09:21.625
It was a stillness I knew.

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01:09:22.295 --> 01:09:27.115
This was how the house closed in
on itself when someone had died.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6877-0
01:09:29.145 --> 01:09:33.215
All at once, I wished I hadn't
come, but the man's hobby seemed

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6877-1
01:09:33.215 --> 01:09:36.775
to sense my misgiving because he
turned quite suddenly.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6899-0
01:09:37.545 --> 01:09:41.467
Though he wasn't a young man, he
still had something of a boys

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6899-1
01:09:41.467 --> 01:09:45.015
face, his eyes a childish blue,
were clear and startled.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6908-0
01:09:45.975 --> 01:09:48.395
What's the matter? He said. And
then are you all right?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6934-0
01:09:49.265 --> 01:09:53.980
This concerning barrass me
uncomfortably. I stood in the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6934-1
01:09:53.980 --> 01:09:58.695
stagnant antique, crowded room,
not knowing what to say.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6944-0
01:09:59.995 --> 01:10:05.225
OK, let's take a look at those
opening paragraphs then and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6948-0
01:10:06.865 --> 01:10:08.135
What do you think about?

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01:10:09.375 --> 01:10:11.095
Presentation of place.

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01:10:13.425 --> 01:10:14.675
How she evokes it.

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01:10:16.075 --> 01:10:17.335
And he thought, sunny one.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6966-0
01:10:22.805 --> 01:10:23.385
At school.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6972-0
01:10:27.595 --> 01:10:27.935
Ohh.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6987-0
01:10:28.195 --> 01:10:31.982
Emotion, the way that she's
describing everything is

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/6981-0
01:10:30.445 --> 01:10:30.935
Umm.

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01:10:31.982 --> 01:10:33.125
supposed like a.

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01:10:34.025 --> 01:10:34.755
Feeling.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7002-0
01:10:40.055 --> 01:10:42.485
What is it that makes it seem
like an emotion?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7007-0
01:10:44.305 --> 01:10:45.175
Are you asking?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7009-0
01:10:45.575 --> 01:10:46.005
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7011-0
01:10:47.275 --> 01:10:47.775
I'm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7013-0
01:10:51.345 --> 01:10:51.955
Ohh.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7021-0
01:10:54.395 --> 01:10:56.065
Something about the flow?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7039-0
01:10:54.885 --> 01:10:59.108
But I suppose, yeah. Something
that I suppose it's partly the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7039-1
01:10:59.108 --> 01:11:01.695
words that he used as well, but
it's.

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01:11:05.465 --> 01:11:11.236
I suppose it's about bit about
the the, the, the, the flowers

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7068-1
01:11:11.236 --> 01:11:16.820
and and how house feels closed
in on itself and someone has

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7067-0
01:11:16.345 --> 01:11:16.985
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7068-2
01:11:16.820 --> 01:11:17.285
died.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7072-0
01:11:18.145 --> 01:11:20.125
And that then?

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01:11:20.965 --> 01:11:25.854
Sort of transfers back through
what you've read and and and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7104-1
01:11:25.854 --> 01:11:30.823
makes that part of the emotion
that he's feeling rather than

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7104-2
01:11:30.823 --> 01:11:32.615
just being in a scene.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7100-0
01:11:31.275 --> 01:11:31.605
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7111-0
01:11:33.415 --> 01:11:34.305
That my sons.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7118-0
01:11:34.685 --> 01:11:36.885
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense,
yes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7124-0
01:11:37.625 --> 01:11:38.255
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7137-0
01:11:38.125 --> 01:11:41.927
I wonder if it's like a sense of
smell that's running through it

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7137-1
01:11:41.927 --> 01:11:42.395
as well.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7140-0
01:11:42.945 --> 01:11:43.645
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7141-0
01:11:43.355 --> 01:11:43.585
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7155-0
01:11:43.855 --> 01:11:47.659
No smell links to a lot of
emotion as well, and you've got

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01:11:47.659 --> 01:11:48.625
you've got the.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7170-0
01:11:49.305 --> 01:11:53.135
The turpentine and the saw dust.
And then you've kind of built.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7181-0
01:11:54.895 --> 01:11:58.035
The bit about, yeah, being
almost too stale to breathe.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7184-0
01:11:58.805 --> 01:11:59.755
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7203-0
01:11:59.685 --> 01:12:03.775
And the OK thing there. And I
think that kind of, oh, you

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7203-1
01:12:03.775 --> 01:12:06.525
know, if it does bring the
tension in.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7210-0
01:12:07.265 --> 01:12:09.575
Hmm hmm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7206-0
01:12:07.395 --> 01:12:07.585
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7230-0
01:12:09.315 --> 01:12:12.522
Yeah, I mean, I can almost see
the dust motes in the air and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7230-1
01:12:12.522 --> 01:12:15.465
everything, even though it's not
written into the text.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7226-0
01:12:13.805 --> 01:12:14.425
Mm-hmm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7232-0
01:12:16.265 --> 01:12:16.585
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7241-0
01:12:22.955 --> 01:12:24.765
Yeah, it's very sensory, isn't
it?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7244-0
01:12:25.785 --> 01:12:26.035
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7285-0
01:12:28.155 --> 01:12:33.043
There is a sort of a stage
feeling to it, isn't there? The

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7285-1
01:12:33.043 --> 01:12:37.681
guilt you think of those
Victorian theatres and things?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7285-2
01:12:37.681 --> 01:12:43.065
So it's it's a strange setting.
It's not just a normal house or.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7306-0
01:12:43.735 --> 01:12:48.170
Shop or whatever you're going
to. So there is that kind of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7290-0
01:12:44.015 --> 01:12:44.425
Hmm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7306-1
01:12:48.170 --> 01:12:51.025
peculiarity of it being so so
gilded.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7338-0
01:12:52.225 --> 01:12:56.949
But also seeing the sort of
underbelly the how things work

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7338-1
01:12:56.949 --> 01:13:01.352
and things dismembered and
sprawled and and stuff like

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7338-2
01:13:01.352 --> 01:13:06.635
that. So there's a thought scene
behind the scenes feeling to it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7330-0
01:13:01.785 --> 01:13:02.355
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7349-0
01:13:07.265 --> 01:13:10.785
Yeah. Yeah, that's a very good
observations, everyone.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7356-0
01:13:12.245 --> 01:13:14.065
And and throughout the novel.

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01:13:15.265 --> 01:13:19.290
You could you get these kind of
scenarios being set up so

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7379-1
01:13:19.290 --> 01:13:23.315
there's the museum and one of
the places where Theo goes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7390-0
01:13:25.805 --> 01:13:29.186
When he's being fostered out
because he's lost his mom, this

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7390-1
01:13:29.186 --> 01:13:29.795
is kind of.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7409-0
01:13:31.425 --> 01:13:34.685
Basement flat. That's also very
rich and elaborate and opulent

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7409-1
01:13:34.685 --> 01:13:36.495
like this, but a little bit
seedy.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7411-0
01:13:37.565 --> 01:13:38.195
And.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7459-0
01:13:39.055 --> 01:13:43.323
And it also calls seem the bomb
goes off in the museum, the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7459-1
01:13:43.323 --> 01:13:47.803
terrorist bomb and everything's
shattered, a mismatch membered

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7459-2
01:13:47.803 --> 01:13:52.284
in the ears. There's these sort
of strange chemical smells and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7459-3
01:13:52.284 --> 01:13:56.835
and it's very it's very stagnant
and it's difficult to breathe.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7464-0
01:13:57.565 --> 01:14:00.195
So that kind of imagery.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7494-0
01:14:01.505 --> 01:14:05.058
This can distilled. Here she
weaves all the way through the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7494-1
01:14:05.058 --> 01:14:08.848
piece, but in in different but
parallel settings, which I think

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7494-2
01:14:08.848 --> 01:14:11.335
is a really interesting way to
use space.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7496-0
01:14:12.265 --> 01:14:12.825
And.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7503-0
01:14:14.845 --> 01:14:17.205
I like you like you say, it's
very stagy.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7506-0
01:14:18.985 --> 01:14:19.405
It's.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7533-0
01:14:20.485 --> 01:14:24.752
I I don't know the back of the
theater or something slightly

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7533-1
01:14:24.752 --> 01:14:29.088
camped about it, and a lot of
that's in in the diction, isn't

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7533-2
01:14:29.088 --> 01:14:31.955
it? I mean, can you pick out
words that?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7545-0
01:14:32.815 --> 01:14:37.125
Umm, but a slightly archaic,
slightly theatrical.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7555-0
01:14:38.875 --> 01:14:41.465
Any any particular phrases that
stand out for you?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7569-0
01:14:53.265 --> 01:14:56.155
I mean things like tussle,
draperies aren't there and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7578-0
01:14:57.935 --> 01:14:59.665
Well, the cloth. What tables?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7574-0
01:14:58.095 --> 01:14:58.595
Dust.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7580-0
01:15:00.225 --> 01:15:00.935
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7583-0
01:15:01.785 --> 01:15:04.435
Umm hmm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7588-0
01:15:05.155 --> 01:15:05.845
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7601-0
01:15:06.125 --> 01:15:10.347
Was it? Yeah. Gill did commodes
and torchieres. I don't know

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7601-1
01:15:10.347 --> 01:15:11.315
what they are.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7622-0
01:15:12.755 --> 01:15:15.986
I had to look that up, but
apparently they're they're kind

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7622-1
01:15:15.986 --> 01:15:19.435
of elaborate tortures with very
long stems. It might be fixed.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7621-0
01:15:19.055 --> 01:15:19.465
Right.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7630-0
01:15:21.215 --> 01:15:23.175
You know, be a sort of a
branched.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7637-0
01:15:23.865 --> 01:15:24.805
Lamp with a.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7635-0
01:15:24.145 --> 01:15:24.525
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7645-0
01:15:26.145 --> 01:15:28.295
But I5 beauty and the beast, I
think.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7651-0
01:15:28.275 --> 01:15:30.315
Ohh yes yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7649-0
01:15:28.875 --> 01:15:29.155
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7653-0
01:15:31.085 --> 01:15:31.555
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7672-0
01:15:33.295 --> 01:15:37.416
So yeah, so she's picked her
words really carefully to evoke

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7672-1
01:15:37.416 --> 01:15:39.375
a certain effect, hasn't she?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7705-0
01:15:40.935 --> 01:15:45.762
Sense of this something a little
bit Gothic about it. Slippered

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7705-1
01:15:45.762 --> 01:15:50.664
feet. I mean, that's a rather OK
term dim room, richly carpeted.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7705-2
01:15:50.664 --> 01:15:54.962
You might associate that with
the kind of minded century

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7705-3
01:15:54.962 --> 01:15:55.565
writing.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7707-0
01:15:56.395 --> 01:15:56.825
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7719-0
01:15:57.805 --> 01:16:02.335
So, Umm, so when you're
describing place, it's not just.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7744-0
01:16:03.775 --> 01:16:07.163
The kind of details you use,
it's also the the the words that

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7744-1
01:16:07.163 --> 01:16:10.550
you choose and the resonance
that goes along with those words

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7744-2
01:16:10.550 --> 01:16:13.445
might want to build a particular
kind of atmosphere.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7754-0
01:16:18.585 --> 01:16:22.625
Huge amount of detail, isn't
there, just physical detail?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7757-0
01:16:24.115 --> 01:16:25.085
Observation.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7800-0
01:16:26.225 --> 01:16:29.730
There is, but it it's not that
kind of annoying, and the room

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7800-1
01:16:29.730 --> 01:16:33.178
was this big and the walls were
like that. And then this was

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7800-2
01:16:33.178 --> 01:16:36.682
like that. And that was like
that. It's telling detail, isn't

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7800-3
01:16:36.682 --> 01:16:39.395
it? It's very specific things
from rather than.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7795-0
01:16:37.475 --> 01:16:37.795
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7806-0
01:16:40.155 --> 01:16:40.655
Yes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7818-0
01:16:40.175 --> 01:16:44.033
The kind of thing that I skip
where there's whole paragraphs

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7818-1
01:16:44.033 --> 01:16:44.855
of just like.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7821-0
01:16:45.055 --> 01:16:46.405
Yeah, yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7822-0
01:16:45.695 --> 01:16:46.085
No.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7825-0
01:16:47.185 --> 01:16:47.605
There.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7833-0
01:16:48.025 --> 01:16:50.535
Yeah, exactly. That really gets
out of it, I think.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7841-0
01:16:51.855 --> 01:16:54.315
Yeah, you're not being told
you're being shown.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7844-0
01:16:55.895 --> 01:16:56.525
So.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7846-0
01:16:59.475 --> 01:17:00.055
And.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7864-0
01:17:03.565 --> 01:17:06.955
And you all have been journey
yet. Carry on. Yeah, yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7858-0
01:17:03.725 --> 01:17:05.105
It would be sorry.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7873-0
01:17:06.995 --> 01:17:09.625
I thought I'd been interesting
thing to do.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7903-0
01:17:11.025 --> 01:17:14.906
If you write it different, going
from place to place like you

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7903-1
01:17:14.906 --> 01:17:18.911
said, but the slippered feet and
using that kind of language in

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7903-2
01:17:18.911 --> 01:17:21.915
that setting and kind of
changing the language.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7913-0
01:17:22.935 --> 01:17:26.265
In different settings, even if
it's the same same piece.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7920-0
01:17:27.035 --> 01:17:30.255
Yes, yes, yes, that would be
very interesting.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7923-0
01:17:30.675 --> 01:17:31.095
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7927-0
01:17:30.915 --> 01:17:32.685
And something to experiment
with.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7929-0
01:17:33.245 --> 01:17:33.705
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7940-0
01:17:34.215 --> 01:17:36.938
It's actually something that she
does to do. I'm quite

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7940-1
01:17:36.938 --> 01:17:38.225
consistently in the novel.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7943-0
01:17:38.775 --> 01:17:39.945
All right.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7950-0
01:17:41.035 --> 01:17:43.705
And should which fair finds
himself.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7957-0
01:17:45.865 --> 01:17:48.175
And sentence length from the
rhythms.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7958-0
01:17:48.395 --> 01:17:48.855
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7971-0
01:17:49.785 --> 01:17:53.246
Ohh kind of like kind of micro
elements of craft, aren't they

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7971-1
01:17:53.246 --> 01:17:53.525
that?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7973-0
01:17:54.435 --> 01:17:54.725
The.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/7985-0
01:17:57.405 --> 01:18:00.785
I place is where you want. What
what we call parrot peripatetic.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8002-0
01:18:03.425 --> 01:18:07.651
Sentences that are the shorter
and crisper and then these kind

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8002-1
01:18:07.651 --> 01:18:09.595
of rather theatrical flowing.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8010-0
01:18:10.425 --> 01:18:13.645
Piling on causes, causes and
ideas.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8012-0
01:18:14.755 --> 01:18:15.315
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8028-0
01:18:29.545 --> 01:18:32.498
Later on in the passage, they
move into quite a lot of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8028-1
01:18:32.498 --> 01:18:33.195
conversation.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8032-0
01:18:34.315 --> 01:18:35.835
But we never lose sight.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8037-0
01:18:36.595 --> 01:18:38.085
Of the environment because.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8046-0
01:18:42.235 --> 01:18:45.075
She keeps referring us back to
it, so.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8051-0
01:18:46.845 --> 01:18:48.235
On page 138.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8057-0
01:18:49.775 --> 01:18:53.205
Had this rather embarrassed and
haltering conversation.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8062-0
01:18:58.865 --> 01:19:00.155
And then right at the bottom.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8136-0
01:19:03.355 --> 01:19:07.095
Turning away so that I missed
the rest of the sentence, he

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8136-1
01:19:07.095 --> 01:19:11.087
sidestepped a book face down on
the carpet and a teacup ringed

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8136-2
01:19:11.087 --> 01:19:14.890
with brown on the inside. And I
should be instead to Renate

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8136-3
01:19:14.890 --> 01:19:18.312
upholstered chair, tapped and
shared with fringe in a

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8136-4
01:19:18.312 --> 01:19:21.861
complicated button, studied
seat, a Turkish chair, as I

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8136-5
01:19:21.861 --> 01:19:26.044
later learned, he was one of the
few people in New York who still

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8136-6
01:19:26.044 --> 01:19:29.910
knew how to holster them. So
we're taken back to place again

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8136-7
01:19:29.910 --> 01:19:32.635
and to the tiny details, but
very kind of.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8146-0
01:19:32.815 --> 01:19:37.505
I think quite important details
that they're so exact that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8173-0
01:19:38.795 --> 01:19:42.133
This is kind of cinematic
vividness to it and a kind of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8173-1
01:19:42.133 --> 01:19:45.887
staginess again, so we get this
sense of this theater in which

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8173-2
01:19:45.887 --> 01:19:48.985
this conversation, this
encounter, is taking place.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8192-0
01:19:49.735 --> 01:19:53.050
And then he goes on the winged
bronze, his silver trinkets,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8192-1
01:19:53.050 --> 01:19:55.535
dusty grey ostrich plumes and a
silver bars.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8209-0
01:19:56.375 --> 01:19:59.087
And certainly I perched on the
edge of the chair and looked

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8209-1
01:19:59.087 --> 01:20:01.844
around. I would have prepared to
in my feet to the easier to

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8209-2
01:20:01.844 --> 01:20:02.115
leave.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8212-0
01:20:04.965 --> 01:20:05.745
So I think.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8219-0
01:20:07.285 --> 01:20:09.785
It's it's quite important when
you're writing.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8254-0
01:20:10.845 --> 01:20:14.287
Piece of fiction you've
established. Set up your place

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8254-1
01:20:14.287 --> 01:20:18.166
to, to not think. That's it. OK.
I've. I've created this. Now

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8254-2
01:20:18.166 --> 01:20:22.109
we'll move on to something else.
But keep that setting running

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8254-3
01:20:22.109 --> 01:20:23.735
through. Refer back to it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8253-0
01:20:24.005 --> 01:20:24.245
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8272-0
01:20:25.255 --> 01:20:28.975
Weave it into the in and out of
the conversation the actions, so

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8272-1
01:20:28.975 --> 01:20:32.293
it's almost there as a kind of
extra presence or an extra

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8272-2
01:20:32.293 --> 01:20:32.865
character.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8284-0
01:20:34.435 --> 01:20:38.040
Physical and firemen sort of
adding to the the tension of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8284-1
01:20:38.040 --> 01:20:39.345
whatever is going on.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8296-0
01:20:42.205 --> 01:20:45.385
Any final thoughts on that
piece, anybody?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8321-0
01:20:44.695 --> 01:20:48.928
Actually, I think that the the
point about keeping it running

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8321-1
01:20:48.928 --> 01:20:52.956
is is important, at least for
the way that I read. Because

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8317-0
01:20:52.885 --> 01:20:53.365
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8321-2
01:20:52.956 --> 01:20:55.345
reread the pigeon extracted
there.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8419-0
01:20:56.215 --> 01:21:00.040
The first bit made a lot more a
lot more sense. I was more

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8419-1
01:21:00.040 --> 01:21:04.190
interested in it, whereas when
you read something for the first

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8343-0
01:21:02.205 --> 01:21:02.675
Yes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8419-2
01:21:04.190 --> 01:21:08.015
time, when it starts with
description you're a bit sort of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8355-0
01:21:05.595 --> 01:21:05.975
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8419-3
01:21:08.015 --> 01:21:12.034
like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And. And
the thing, what's the thing,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8419-4
01:21:12.034 --> 01:21:15.730
what's going on and you don't
because you don't know the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8381-0
01:21:12.165 --> 01:21:12.955
Yeah, yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8419-5
01:21:15.730 --> 01:21:19.814
characters yet. Sometimes they
description of them. You know I

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8393-0
01:21:16.435 --> 01:21:17.015
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8419-6
01:21:19.814 --> 01:21:24.028
I don't know it just it seems to
stick with me less and resonate

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8419-7
01:21:24.028 --> 01:21:26.945
less because I've got no idea
what's coming.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8414-0
01:21:24.955 --> 01:21:25.385
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8481-0
01:21:27.045 --> 01:21:30.611
And then when you go back and
read it again, once you've seen

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8481-1
01:21:30.611 --> 01:21:34.234
more of the story, then it seems
to sort of for some, for some

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8481-2
01:21:34.234 --> 01:21:37.685
reason I can take it in more, I
can process it better. So I

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8460-0
01:21:37.245 --> 01:21:38.235
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8457-0
01:21:37.615 --> 01:21:37.935
So.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8481-3
01:21:37.685 --> 01:21:41.308
think to keep it going rather
than do it all up front and then

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8481-4
01:21:41.308 --> 01:21:43.665
just action action action is
definitely.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8494-0
01:21:43.215 --> 01:21:46.731
Yes, yes. Yeah, exactly. I'm not
sure this is this is taken out

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8486-0
01:21:44.675 --> 01:21:45.055
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8494-1
01:21:46.731 --> 01:21:47.335
of concept.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8500-0
01:21:48.225 --> 01:21:50.975
Concept context this extract.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8516-0
01:21:53.015 --> 01:21:56.807
So it would make a lot more
sense if you read the whole

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8516-1
01:21:56.807 --> 01:21:58.905
novel but but yes, exactly and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8521-0
01:22:01.095 --> 01:22:02.475
And you could you can use.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8539-0
01:22:03.455 --> 01:22:07.823
Place to to build atmosphere and
and pace and you know use use

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8539-1
01:22:07.823 --> 01:22:10.665
the where they use changes in
the light.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8552-0
01:22:12.725 --> 01:22:15.405
We're talking about transitions
the other week as well.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8552-1
01:22:15.405 --> 01:22:16.935
Transitions from space to space.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8560-0
01:22:18.625 --> 01:22:21.175
How they might complement what's
going on on the action.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8562-0
01:22:23.375 --> 01:22:24.325
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8564-0
01:22:25.135 --> 01:22:25.665
Good.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8568-0
01:22:28.355 --> 01:22:29.955
I think what we'll do now.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8583-0
01:22:31.345 --> 01:22:34.301
Not since the people were a bit
weary today, so I think we'll

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8583-1
01:22:34.301 --> 01:22:35.445
move on to the exercise.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8585-0
01:22:36.725 --> 01:22:37.245
And.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8601-0
01:22:39.335 --> 01:22:42.595
I'm probably going to have to
just read this out to you as I

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8601-1
01:22:42.595 --> 01:22:44.625
don't seem to be able to share
today.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8607-0
01:22:45.865 --> 01:22:47.375
You can write it down.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8627-0
01:22:55.145 --> 01:22:58.381
Secondly, all the task ohshe
it's on Moodle as well. I did it

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8627-1
01:22:58.381 --> 01:23:00.885
to Moodle so you should be able
to bring it up.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8642-0
01:23:03.095 --> 01:23:06.180
Anyway, if you've got your
either gone up, if you've got

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8642-1
01:23:06.180 --> 01:23:07.045
your pens ready.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8663-0
01:23:07.815 --> 01:23:12.133
So there's a choice, and this is
for you to start today and then

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8663-1
01:23:12.133 --> 01:23:15.055
develop to share in our workshop
next week.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8666-0
01:23:16.565 --> 01:23:18.335
So either.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8670-0
01:23:19.595 --> 01:23:20.715
Begin a story.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8680-0
01:23:21.555 --> 01:23:24.465
Where the setting is based on
somewhere you know.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8694-0
01:23:27.495 --> 01:23:30.482
Right from the point of view of
a character who is very

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8694-1
01:23:30.482 --> 01:23:31.655
different to yourself.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8706-0
01:23:32.845 --> 01:23:36.625
For example, a child, a refugee,
a policewoman.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8721-0
01:23:37.345 --> 01:23:41.315
Like bean animal, stray dog,
bird watcher or you can use the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8721-1
01:23:41.315 --> 01:23:41.965
character.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8734-0
01:23:43.215 --> 01:23:46.928
Fictionalized that you picked up
picked up for the exercise this

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8734-1
01:23:46.928 --> 01:23:47.385
morning.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8746-0
01:23:49.205 --> 01:23:51.859
You know, perhaps this character
has memories that colour their

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8746-1
01:23:51.859 --> 01:23:52.605
view of the place.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8761-0
01:23:55.225 --> 01:23:58.591
And I put do some additional
research as well. But you can do

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8761-1
01:23:58.591 --> 01:23:59.785
that in your own time.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8764-0
01:24:00.565 --> 01:24:01.785
After this class.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8768-0
01:24:03.625 --> 01:24:05.055
So everybody got that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8771-0
01:24:05.605 --> 01:24:05.905
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8787-0
01:24:06.545 --> 01:24:10.095
Yeah. Or if you want to do
something less structured, you

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8787-1
01:24:10.095 --> 01:24:11.625
may already have an idea.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8806-0
01:24:12.425 --> 01:24:17.551
Write a story in which place has
a prominent role, and again, do

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8806-1
01:24:17.551 --> 01:24:21.415
some research as well. Not too
much, just a bit.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8813-0
01:24:22.765 --> 01:24:26.475
OK, so is everyone clear on the
task?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8816-0
01:24:27.515 --> 01:24:27.875
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8821-0
01:24:28.545 --> 01:24:30.445
OK, I'm going to give you.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8856-0
01:24:31.325 --> 01:24:34.735
20 minutes to work on that. You
don't have to come up with a

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8856-1
01:24:34.735 --> 01:24:38.312
finished piece if you just come
up with notes and initial ideas

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8856-2
01:24:38.312 --> 01:24:40.995
or plans, that's fine. It's just
to kick start.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8862-0
01:24:42.655 --> 01:24:43.995
The work for next week.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8863-0
01:24:44.825 --> 01:24:45.205
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8868-0
01:24:45.095 --> 01:24:46.445
Are you up to doing this?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8877-0
01:24:47.245 --> 01:24:49.055
Joe, Joe Toft, Joe.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8887-0
01:24:48.945 --> 01:24:52.495
No, I don't think I have to yet,
but different that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8885-0
01:24:50.645 --> 01:24:52.365
Ohh. Take care.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8895-0
01:24:53.515 --> 01:24:55.095
OK. Yeah, don't worry.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8915-0
01:24:54.635 --> 01:24:59.380
Yeah. Normally some of the I get
a task, something will pop into

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8915-1
01:24:59.380 --> 01:25:03.467
my brain and I'm just like
you're going. I got nothing.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8915-2
01:25:03.467 --> 01:25:03.905
Sorry.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8929-0
01:25:04.715 --> 01:25:08.238
Not to arranged. OK. Anyway,
it's perhaps have bit of rest

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8929-1
01:25:08.238 --> 01:25:08.775
and then.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8933-0
01:25:09.395 --> 01:25:09.975
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8948-0
01:25:09.625 --> 01:25:14.538
Just reading this at the full
final bit, so we'll reconvene in

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8948-1
01:25:14.538 --> 01:25:15.395
20 minutes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8947-0
01:25:15.455 --> 01:25:15.865
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8952-0
01:25:18.895 --> 01:25:19.735
Set my timer.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8978-0
01:25:23.675 --> 01:25:27.987
And yeah, so I don't expect you
to try to finish peace. Like I

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8978-1
01:25:27.987 --> 01:25:32.367
said, it's just the beginnings
which you can develop. Let's see

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8967-0
01:25:28.765 --> 01:25:29.045
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/8978-2
01:25:32.367 --> 01:25:33.735
what you've got, OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9106-0
01:43:50.265 --> 01:43:56.629
OK, so if you just bring what
you're writing to some sort of a

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9106-1
01:43:56.629 --> 01:43:57.235
close?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9110-0
01:44:08.495 --> 01:44:08.805
I.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9112-0
01:44:10.345 --> 01:44:10.795
Welcome.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9117-0
01:44:11.635 --> 01:44:13.045
Just wait for Claire to.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9120-0
01:44:14.555 --> 01:44:15.145
Repeat.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9128-0
01:44:20.495 --> 01:44:23.975
How you doing, Joe? Joe Toft Jo.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9136-0
01:44:24.745 --> 01:44:27.615
I actually I did get a few ideas
down.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9140-0
01:44:27.955 --> 01:44:29.235
Oh, right, OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9142-0
01:44:29.105 --> 01:44:29.575
Then.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9157-0
01:44:30.965 --> 01:44:36.005
Well, the main ones was about
the lifeboat crew local to me.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9177-0
01:44:36.985 --> 01:44:41.324
I thought you would do a piece
from the perspective, either the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9177-1
01:44:41.324 --> 01:44:44.035
modern crew or the historical
crew and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9197-0
01:44:45.205 --> 01:44:48.504
And there's also a bit, but
there's a whole day make you

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9197-1
01:44:48.504 --> 01:44:52.150
need to drive, and last summer,
so it would be interesting for

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9197-2
01:44:52.150 --> 01:44:53.075
her perspective.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9199-0
01:44:54.305 --> 01:44:55.035
So.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9217-0
01:44:56.525 --> 01:44:59.547
I also thought about the day I
showed Stephan this house before

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9217-1
01:44:59.547 --> 01:45:02.285
we moved because he didn't know
we were leaving the farm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9241-0
01:45:03.015 --> 01:45:06.861
So how did his little mind
process that? And it was a

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9241-1
01:45:06.861 --> 01:45:11.134
thought about the person who
runs the ice cream van all day

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9241-2
01:45:11.134 --> 01:45:12.415
on on the harbour.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9256-0
01:45:13.335 --> 01:45:18.365
Wow, that's a great. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Because they.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9249-0
01:45:14.875 --> 01:45:16.555
Yeah, yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9255-0
01:45:17.665 --> 01:45:18.525
So I think.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9261-0
01:45:19.905 --> 01:45:20.555
Yes, like.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9262-0
01:45:20.045 --> 01:45:20.805
Love it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9310-0
01:45:21.395 --> 01:45:24.761
Yeah, I felt with the with the
lifeboat one, I mean my first

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9310-1
01:45:24.761 --> 01:45:28.072
thought was how would I feel
running down to the harbour to

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9274-0
01:45:25.425 --> 01:45:25.705
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9310-2
01:45:28.072 --> 01:45:31.604
get into life and my heart would
be hammering and they thought,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9310-3
01:45:31.604 --> 01:45:35.080
hang on, they've all had a lot
of training. They're going into

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9310-4
01:45:35.080 --> 01:45:36.735
this with a different mindset.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9335-0
01:45:38.705 --> 01:45:41.682
So just kind of thinking, well,
what's it like going into

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9335-1
01:45:41.682 --> 01:45:44.709
emergency when you have that
level of training or was your

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9335-2
01:45:44.709 --> 01:45:46.505
drenaline ZAP, but it's more of
a?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9339-0
01:45:47.355 --> 01:45:48.535
A focused.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9345-0
01:45:49.395 --> 01:45:51.305
Kind of sense of urgency.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9364-0
01:45:52.875 --> 01:45:55.793
There's this thing with the
hyperfocus on the automatic

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9364-1
01:45:55.793 --> 01:45:58.345
response when you have a good
level of training.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9366-0
01:45:59.025 --> 01:45:59.435
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9381-0
01:45:59.055 --> 01:46:02.237
Umm. And that's truity of
knowing your crew as well

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9381-1
01:46:02.237 --> 01:46:03.215
trained as well.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9395-0
01:46:04.925 --> 01:46:08.355
But if you're the new team, new
crew member, whether.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9388-0
01:46:05.225 --> 01:46:05.535
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9405-0
01:46:09.345 --> 01:46:12.095
That would throw the mix off a
bit so.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9423-0
01:46:13.915 --> 01:46:16.523
Yeah. So I thought, well, that
breach because I could actually

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9423-1
01:46:16.523 --> 01:46:19.005
go down and see if we could
interview a member of the crew.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9438-0
01:46:19.845 --> 01:46:24.243
Yes, that would be very good.
That direct research. Yeah, it

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9429-0
01:46:20.345 --> 01:46:20.625
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9438-1
01:46:24.243 --> 01:46:24.675
would.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9440-0
01:46:25.475 --> 01:46:26.255
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9447-0
01:46:28.115 --> 01:46:29.985
So it might go with that
actually.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9489-0
01:46:30.945 --> 01:46:35.847
Yeah, I I mean then you might
want to think about what sort of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9489-1
01:46:35.847 --> 01:46:40.126
questions could you ask that
would actually give their

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9489-2
01:46:40.126 --> 01:46:44.795
perspective on on the place
itself, the kind of things that

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9472-0
01:46:43.025 --> 01:46:43.385
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9489-3
01:46:44.795 --> 01:46:49.852
they been in emergency situation
that they were focusing on what

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9487-0
01:46:48.705 --> 01:46:49.145
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9489-4
01:46:49.852 --> 01:46:50.085
oh.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9493-0
01:46:50.855 --> 01:46:52.425
The roots the.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9501-0
01:46:53.675 --> 01:46:56.085
The kind of the weather, maybe
and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9514-0
01:46:55.985 --> 01:46:59.985
Yeah, we've noticed in this
number then nearly always out.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9517-0
01:47:01.075 --> 01:47:01.485
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9531-0
01:47:01.325 --> 01:47:04.723
Commit to high tide because we
got a huge Sam bank that the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9531-1
01:47:04.723 --> 01:47:06.025
tourists don't realise.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9535-0
01:47:06.795 --> 01:47:07.545
Ah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9545-0
01:47:07.685 --> 01:47:10.685
Let's say try and get off at.
The water's really deep.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9562-0
01:47:11.315 --> 01:47:14.480
Just before the Sun Bank gets
covered, the they're basically

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9549-0
01:47:11.365 --> 01:47:11.815
Right.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9562-1
01:47:14.480 --> 01:47:15.465
stuck on an island.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9598-0
01:47:16.415 --> 01:47:20.108
So I do think that that I think
the crew do come out as a matter

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9598-1
01:47:20.108 --> 01:47:23.232
of course during the summer
because they just you see,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9598-2
01:47:23.232 --> 01:47:26.925
they're like fairing people back
and forth even though the signs

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9598-3
01:47:26.925 --> 01:47:28.515
everywhere people don't see.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9608-0
01:47:29.455 --> 01:47:32.260
Just let you put sat in several
people was getting cut off

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9608-1
01:47:32.260 --> 01:47:32.545
there.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9621-0
01:47:33.405 --> 01:47:37.874
Yeah. So I think probably the
ensure life for is launched

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9621-1
01:47:37.874 --> 01:47:39.645
doesn't matter routine.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9632-0
01:47:40.505 --> 01:47:43.515
Do high tides doing during the
summer months?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9646-0
01:47:44.445 --> 01:47:48.835
But so that's something to kind
of think about as well.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9645-0
01:47:48.155 --> 01:47:48.645
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9665-0
01:47:49.475 --> 01:47:52.342
It's almost. It's almost like,
just like, come on then. High

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9652-0
01:47:49.675 --> 01:47:50.195
Seems.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9665-1
01:47:52.342 --> 01:47:53.845
tides coming, getting the boats.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9669-0
01:47:54.585 --> 01:47:55.105
Mm-hmm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9672-0
01:47:54.845 --> 01:47:56.315
It's gonna do that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9700-0
01:47:58.125 --> 01:48:01.669
The idea of things under the
surface that some people know

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9700-1
01:48:01.669 --> 01:48:04.973
about and others don't,
literally under the surface of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9700-2
01:48:04.973 --> 01:48:07.735
the sea is is quite a promising
one, I think.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9702-0
01:48:07.585 --> 01:48:08.875
Yeah, yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9718-0
01:48:09.505 --> 01:48:14.553
Kind of metaphorical aspects to
it as well, so something could

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9718-1
01:48:14.553 --> 01:48:16.475
be picked up by perhaps.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9722-0
01:48:18.345 --> 01:48:18.755
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9730-0
01:48:18.425 --> 01:48:21.055
Connect the relationships in the
story.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9732-0
01:48:23.455 --> 01:48:23.815
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9738-0
01:48:24.315 --> 01:48:26.075
Something that happened in the
past.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9740-0
01:48:27.775 --> 01:48:28.105
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9745-0
01:48:31.865 --> 01:48:33.475
Yeah, so thought isn't it?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9750-0
01:48:33.805 --> 01:48:34.635
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9748-0
01:48:34.015 --> 01:48:34.285
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9759-0
01:48:34.625 --> 01:48:37.345
We'll see if it's special. Kind
of go with the hot historical.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9762-0
01:48:37.985 --> 01:48:38.845
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9766-0
01:48:38.715 --> 01:48:39.815
Aspect as well.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9768-0
01:48:40.685 --> 01:48:41.565
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9784-0
01:48:42.675 --> 01:48:46.929
May be contrasting past and
present as well, paralleling to

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9779-0
01:48:45.845 --> 01:48:46.135
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9784-1
01:48:46.929 --> 01:48:48.205
different stories.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9786-0
01:48:48.795 --> 01:48:49.345
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9789-0
01:48:49.925 --> 01:48:50.625
Right. Take.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9802-0
01:48:52.575 --> 01:48:55.585
Yes, good. Yeah, this question
that was done.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9810-0
01:48:56.345 --> 01:48:58.355
How much more with the regret?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9808-0
01:48:56.425 --> 01:48:57.085
I don't think it's.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9811-0
01:48:57.665 --> 01:48:57.905
Hey.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9813-0
01:48:58.265 --> 01:48:58.645
Ohh.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9816-0
01:49:00.775 --> 01:49:01.705
Repressed.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9819-0
01:49:02.905 --> 01:49:03.395
Thanks.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9825-0
01:49:04.005 --> 01:49:07.455
Yeah. Alright, thank you. OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9839-0
01:49:07.555 --> 01:49:12.355
Are are you are you 2 ready to
share? Jo Griffiths and Claire?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9839-1
01:49:12.355 --> 01:49:12.735
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9854-0
01:49:13.485 --> 01:49:17.209
Can you hear us OK? Yeah. You
cats. Sorry. Yeah. Brilliant.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9854-1
01:49:17.209 --> 01:49:17.705
Alright.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9860-0
01:49:19.115 --> 01:49:22.025
Uh Jo of the job. Do you want
to?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9862-0
01:49:22.765 --> 01:49:23.415
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9880-0
01:49:24.725 --> 01:49:28.267
I'll. I'll just. I'll just read
what I've got. It's a bit

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9880-1
01:49:28.267 --> 01:49:29.915
sketchy, but it's a sketch.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9875-0
01:49:28.355 --> 01:49:28.795
Brilliant.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9890-0
01:49:30.545 --> 01:49:33.405
It's just it's fine.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9894-0
01:49:32.925 --> 01:49:35.015
Is him early morning start
again.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9896-0
01:49:35.755 --> 01:49:36.205
And.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9911-0
01:49:39.835 --> 01:49:44.394
And and the dim light of sunrise
suppressed by the cloud against

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9911-1
01:49:44.394 --> 01:49:44.885
an all.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9935-0
01:49:46.175 --> 01:49:50.226
You must empty space at the car
park it kind of cinematic view

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9935-1
01:49:50.226 --> 01:49:52.605
like the beginning of the Fiat
film.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9950-0
01:49:54.835 --> 01:49:58.807
Falls into the park, his face,
and turns down that the volume

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9950-1
01:49:58.807 --> 01:49:59.895
on the CD player.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9971-0
01:50:01.345 --> 01:50:04.569
Not for the benefit of the
shutters. There are none. Rather

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/9971-1
01:50:04.569 --> 01:50:06.395
in cases, boss here's in
playing.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10002-0
01:50:08.225 --> 01:50:12.376
I'm so I put in brackets so you
know. Check out a rap song and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10002-1
01:50:12.376 --> 01:50:16.725
and the line of the song and the
artist. That could be as sort of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10002-2
01:50:16.725 --> 01:50:18.635
relevant at that point. Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10000-0
01:50:16.815 --> 01:50:17.225
Hi.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10010-0
01:50:20.125 --> 01:50:23.155
Is is favorite going to work?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10025-0
01:50:24.595 --> 01:50:29.545
Getting in the the mood and the
into the right gear type song.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10045-0
01:50:30.045 --> 01:50:36.492
Umm, it looks at his phone. The
worn K in its worn case that is,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10045-1
01:50:36.492 --> 01:50:39.665
some gave him 4 Christmases ago.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10093-0
01:50:40.665 --> 01:50:44.492
And that, you know, that could
have some kind of emotional or a

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10093-1
01:50:44.492 --> 01:50:48.199
memory or something where I'm
he's 17 minutes early, it's got

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10093-2
01:50:48.199 --> 01:50:51.847
to be a record. We're kind to
his feet, but not too much. He

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10093-3
01:50:51.847 --> 01:50:55.375
doesn't wanna fall asleep and
looks out the window. So the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10093-4
01:50:55.375 --> 01:50:58.005
familiar faded white lines of
parking bays.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10106-0
01:50:59.925 --> 01:51:03.995
And and so look hovered trolley
bays or neatly Rd.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10124-0
01:51:05.505 --> 01:51:10.975
Umm. And it jackdaws squabble on
the narrow line of grass and old

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10124-1
01:51:10.975 --> 01:51:12.135
crisp packets.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10136-0
01:51:12.925 --> 01:51:16.035
However, I tossed sandwich still
and it's triangle packet.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10144-0
01:51:17.085 --> 01:51:20.045
Shoot compass from bed to bed.
Pigeons.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10147-0
01:51:21.385 --> 01:51:22.135
Search from.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10158-0
01:51:23.395 --> 01:51:26.745
On the high red brick wall that
surrounds the place and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10182-0
01:51:27.425 --> 01:51:32.187
And stalling slide the by barbed
wire, making it look more like a

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10182-1
01:51:32.187 --> 01:51:35.145
prison yard than a supermarket
car park.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10212-0
01:51:36.175 --> 01:51:39.768
This mirror is the is the boss
come through the barrier and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10212-1
01:51:39.768 --> 01:51:42.941
mostly in her Mercedes
immediately puts his chair up

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10212-2
01:51:42.941 --> 01:51:45.575
and looks around the old feet
and up Skoda.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10221-0
01:51:47.055 --> 01:51:50.905
Stuff last night's clothes onto
the passenger seat.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10232-0
01:51:54.075 --> 01:51:56.825
And and then it's just lots of,
Umm, sort of.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10239-0
01:51:58.205 --> 01:52:00.315
Things that could be added, you
know about the.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10272-0
01:52:00.975 --> 01:52:04.505
You know that that the tarmac,
you know, because sometimes the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10272-1
01:52:04.505 --> 01:52:07.810
light shines off, that doesn't
not like giving it a mirror

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10272-2
01:52:07.810 --> 01:52:11.171
image and perhaps a plant that
would be growing in the wall

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10272-3
01:52:11.171 --> 01:52:11.395
and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10290-0
01:52:12.235 --> 01:52:16.497
Trolleys out of place where kids
have been using them as go karts

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10290-1
01:52:16.497 --> 01:52:16.755
and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10324-0
01:52:17.605 --> 01:52:21.546
And sort of things from the
inside of the car, you know,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10324-1
01:52:21.546 --> 01:52:25.557
like the dashboard covered in
the scars of all night rave

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10324-2
01:52:25.557 --> 01:52:28.875
parties, but that he'd been to
in the past and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10351-0
01:52:30.935 --> 01:52:34.575
Now that the dust in the corners
of the rear view mirror, you

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10351-1
01:52:34.575 --> 01:52:38.332
know, sort of given it the the,
you know the idea that that the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10339-0
01:52:34.875 --> 01:52:35.165
No.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10351-2
01:52:38.332 --> 01:52:39.975
cars not precious it's just.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10360-0
01:52:40.795 --> 01:52:44.345
You know this this thing. But he
uses and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10363-0
01:52:46.345 --> 01:52:48.065
Uh, and then?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10370-0
01:52:49.225 --> 01:52:51.125
The car. The smell in the car.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10381-0
01:52:52.985 --> 01:52:56.285
Uh, cigarettes and oversprayed
links and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10386-0
01:52:57.005 --> 01:52:57.855
Things like that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10393-0
01:52:58.975 --> 01:53:01.135
It's just sort of things to.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10394-0
01:53:01.105 --> 01:53:01.535
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10399-0
01:53:02.955 --> 01:53:03.505
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10401-0
01:53:03.175 --> 01:53:04.425
Bit more stuff.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10403-0
01:53:05.345 --> 01:53:05.585
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10423-0
01:53:06.565 --> 01:53:09.873
Ask. That's fantastic. So
wonderful, wonderful observed

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10423-1
01:53:09.873 --> 01:53:10.995
details they learn.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10429-0
01:53:13.085 --> 01:53:15.385
Yeah, it's kind of those.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10446-0
01:53:16.525 --> 01:53:19.679
That's kind of almost
microscopic details that so

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10446-1
01:53:19.679 --> 01:53:21.445
actually very, very telling.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10462-0
01:53:22.075 --> 01:53:25.392
And that you can can sew in and
you don't need to elaborate on

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10462-1
01:53:25.392 --> 01:53:28.445
them. They can because the
images themselves say so much.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10464-0
01:53:29.115 --> 01:53:29.425
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10469-0
01:53:29.675 --> 01:53:33.305
There was an atmosphere but can
underpin.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10474-0
01:53:34.785 --> 01:53:36.485
However, the story evolves.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10476-0
01:53:37.495 --> 01:53:37.775
And.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10481-0
01:53:39.035 --> 01:53:40.875
So it's worth thinking about.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10500-0
01:53:42.255 --> 01:53:45.465
Going back over the images and
ask yourself what, what are the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10500-1
01:53:45.465 --> 01:53:48.523
themes that are coming out of
this and what is this telling

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10500-2
01:53:48.523 --> 01:53:48.675
me?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10507-0
01:53:49.465 --> 01:53:51.055
Versus pointing the story.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10528-0
01:53:52.985 --> 01:53:55.950
You know, you mentioned prison,
but then there's there's a lot

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10528-1
01:53:55.950 --> 01:53:58.915
to do with freedom and the light
bouncing off the Carmack and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10535-0
01:54:00.465 --> 01:54:01.775
The plants growing through.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10540-0
01:54:03.345 --> 01:54:04.615
OK, well that's bad.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10544-0
01:54:05.705 --> 01:54:06.535
Portents.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10553-0
01:54:08.265 --> 01:54:10.605
Any other thoughts, thoughts on
that? Anybody.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10561-0
01:54:12.355 --> 01:54:13.315
Why is it good God?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10560-0
01:54:12.645 --> 01:54:12.965
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10579-0
01:54:17.435 --> 01:54:21.149
Yeah, it looks like the lines of
birds, because there's, like

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10579-1
01:54:21.149 --> 01:54:23.665
almost like 2 lot lots of lines
of birds.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10588-0
01:54:25.045 --> 01:54:28.645
And then you can again kind of
going into.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10593-0
01:54:30.505 --> 01:54:31.835
OK, the ray.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10599-0
01:54:33.115 --> 01:54:35.535
Registered but Reeves since
something.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10641-0
01:54:36.615 --> 01:54:41.397
Yeah. So then in my head, I sort
of imagined in him coming to

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10641-1
01:54:41.397 --> 01:54:46.023
work from an all night rave
party, you know, and just going

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10636-0
01:54:44.665 --> 01:54:46.435
Yeah, she's not that sort of
kind of.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10641-2
01:54:46.023 --> 01:54:48.105
straight to work, you know?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10648-0
01:54:47.315 --> 01:54:50.405
I really like the food so that
lines of cocaine.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10656-0
01:54:51.695 --> 01:54:52.855
But yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10662-0
01:54:51.825 --> 01:54:55.475
About like you things you know.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10663-0
01:54:55.285 --> 01:54:55.695
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10680-0
01:54:56.555 --> 01:55:00.216
Yeah, yeah, because the, the,
the, the, the lines that the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10680-1
01:55:00.216 --> 01:55:01.395
white lines of the.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10700-0
01:55:02.275 --> 01:55:06.495
Pop pop base isn't there for
term like translate that to to

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10688-0
01:55:03.685 --> 01:55:04.225
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10700-1
01:55:06.495 --> 01:55:08.605
the white lines on the mirror.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10712-0
01:55:09.265 --> 01:55:13.189
Yeah, I think you could have a
little a little we have micro

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10706-0
01:55:10.845 --> 01:55:11.365
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10712-1
01:55:13.189 --> 01:55:13.575
theme.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10721-0
01:55:14.235 --> 01:55:16.085
Popping in another.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10720-0
01:55:14.325 --> 01:55:15.965
Yes. Let's see what. Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10727-0
01:55:16.975 --> 01:55:18.755
That's great, actually, yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10735-0
01:55:20.155 --> 01:55:21.855
Transferring the images from 1.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10742-0
01:55:22.865 --> 01:55:24.435
One idea to the next is.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10757-0
01:55:25.885 --> 01:55:29.228
I mean, it's a really
interesting way to approach

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10757-1
01:55:29.228 --> 01:55:32.035
place with the story and make it
organic.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10769-0
01:55:33.205 --> 01:55:36.683
Particular themes images that
repeat themselves in different

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10769-1
01:55:36.683 --> 01:55:37.595
kind of context.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10771-0
01:55:39.945 --> 01:55:40.205
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10786-0
01:55:42.965 --> 01:55:45.731
I thought was interesting in
terms of just seeing your

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10786-1
01:55:45.731 --> 01:55:46.485
technique, Joe.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10867-0
01:55:48.285 --> 01:55:51.717
I think people have an idea
about how writing works, but the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10867-1
01:55:51.717 --> 01:55:55.036
fact that you you'd written
stuff and then left whole kind

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10867-2
01:55:55.036 --> 01:55:58.581
of hooks in there for later to
come back to and then just have

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10867-3
01:55:58.581 --> 01:56:02.181
a load of ideas as well. And in
terms of a writing process it's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10867-4
01:56:02.181 --> 01:56:05.557
it's sort of fascinating to to
to see that bit. So it's not

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10867-5
01:56:05.557 --> 01:56:09.157
that you sit there obviously and
we know you know sit there and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10867-6
01:56:09.157 --> 01:56:12.701
write it all immaculately from
the start, but actually to have

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10867-7
01:56:12.701 --> 01:56:15.964
whole things where it's like
yeah, find out that find out

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10867-8
01:56:15.964 --> 01:56:16.245
that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10878-0
01:56:16.575 --> 01:56:20.385
It's it's very much it's it's
the craft of it I think.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10879-0
01:56:20.515 --> 01:56:20.765
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10890-0
01:56:22.405 --> 01:56:25.755
That's a really good point.
Yeah, though there's.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10904-0
01:56:26.735 --> 01:56:30.017
Places where you might want to
delve into research where you

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10904-1
01:56:30.017 --> 01:56:31.845
mentioned one or two. Well,
yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10936-0
01:56:32.255 --> 01:56:35.992
Yeah. I mean, it's sometimes
when you go back and research

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10936-1
01:56:35.992 --> 01:56:39.855
that thing you think, well, it
doesn't actually fit and then

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10936-2
01:56:39.855 --> 01:56:42.135
you have to dump that idea and
and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10937-0
01:56:41.835 --> 01:56:42.245
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10959-0
01:56:43.175 --> 01:56:47.465
Ruth through the gap that you've
left, you know, but sometimes it

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10941-0
01:56:43.315 --> 01:56:43.665
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10959-1
01:56:47.465 --> 01:56:49.545
works really well and it really.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10966-0
01:56:50.275 --> 01:56:51.965
And haunts the pace, you know.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10975-0
01:56:52.815 --> 01:56:56.165
Find some words in a rapper's
song that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10992-0
01:56:57.975 --> 01:57:03.160
But enhance that that picture or
two years or where he's going,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10988-0
01:57:00.435 --> 01:57:00.985
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/10992-1
01:57:03.160 --> 01:57:03.565
yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11004-0
01:57:04.375 --> 01:57:08.870
Yeah, that puts it really well.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly right,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11000-0
01:57:06.765 --> 01:57:07.075
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11004-1
01:57:08.870 --> 01:57:09.305
right.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11008-0
01:57:10.605 --> 01:57:11.195
Thank you.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11010-0
01:57:13.355 --> 01:57:14.045
Hey.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11018-0
01:57:15.995 --> 01:57:18.745
Claire, you ready to read? What
you.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11029-0
01:57:18.395 --> 01:57:24.504
Yep. OK, so I I've I've got 2
characters and one of them's a

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11029-1
01:57:24.504 --> 01:57:25.305
dog, so.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11032-0
01:57:25.705 --> 01:57:26.095
3.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11040-0
01:57:26.425 --> 01:57:29.015
So this in a new direction for
me.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11042-0
01:57:29.085 --> 01:57:29.925
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11045-0
01:57:31.915 --> 01:57:32.585
Challenging.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11106-0
01:57:33.725 --> 01:57:37.974
The Range Rover pulls off the
road, the shining wheel scoring

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11106-1
01:57:37.974 --> 01:57:42.154
the grass verge and coming to a
rest in front of the gate. A

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11106-2
01:57:42.154 --> 01:57:46.265
woman bright in a new yellow
raincoat and matching wheelies

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11106-3
01:57:46.265 --> 01:57:50.720
slides from the driver seat and
admires her parking up safe from

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11106-4
01:57:50.720 --> 01:57:54.625
passing tractors. Plenty of room
here on the cycle path.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11137-0
01:57:56.155 --> 01:58:00.013
At the rear of the car, she
waves the wand, and the tailgate

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11137-1
01:58:00.013 --> 01:58:03.933
opens a yellow Labrador wearing
the beginnings of middle-aged

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11137-2
01:58:03.933 --> 01:58:06.905
pork holiness looks out and
benign puzzlement.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11210-0
01:58:07.695 --> 01:58:12.608
He's only just settled down and
now he's getting out again. Not

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11210-1
01:58:12.608 --> 01:58:17.674
one to dwell the dog David named
when the move to Wales was first

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11210-2
01:58:17.674 --> 01:58:22.125
mooted before the delays and
dismay kept his puppyhood in

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11210-3
01:58:22.125 --> 01:58:26.808
London jumps down and looks
around eternally open minded and

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11210-4
01:58:26.808 --> 01:58:31.873
optimistic. The woman Kate named
when Kate Bush topped the charts

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11210-5
01:58:31.873 --> 01:58:36.172
and her parents pictured a
dancer daughter clips on his

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11210-6
01:58:36.172 --> 01:58:36.555
lead.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11213-0
01:58:37.745 --> 01:58:38.615
To me with it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11229-0
01:58:39.345 --> 01:58:42.667
She closes and locks the car,
checking the door to make sure

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11229-1
01:58:42.667 --> 01:58:43.375
it's secured.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11258-0
01:58:44.555 --> 01:58:48.678
The gate they've parked in front
of opens to a track between 2

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11258-1
01:58:48.678 --> 01:58:52.407
fields horses on the right,
sheep on the left, and leads

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11258-2
01:58:52.407 --> 01:58:54.435
presumably to the hills beyond.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11285-0
01:58:55.445 --> 01:58:59.717
Driving past it the previous
day, Kate had noticed a decaying

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11285-1
01:58:59.717 --> 01:59:03.506
wooden bridleway sign, and as
she tweeted to her seven

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11285-2
01:59:03.506 --> 01:59:06.675
followers, decided there and
then to explore.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11314-0
01:59:08.125 --> 01:59:12.200
The gate opens easily once she
has mastered the nipping. Rusty

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11314-1
01:59:12.200 --> 01:59:15.757
latch David follows her in,
reluctantly, still working

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11314-2
01:59:15.757 --> 01:59:19.832
through the cacophony of scents
in the nettles beside the gate

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11314-3
01:59:19.832 --> 01:59:20.155
post.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11329-0
01:59:21.405 --> 01:59:25.126
Come on, daffyd. Don't be
afraid. She soothes. Always

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11329-1
01:59:25.126 --> 01:59:27.055
amenable, he ambles through.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11360-0
01:59:28.965 --> 01:59:32.543
As far as I go, so the only the
only theory is that they're both

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11339-0
01:59:30.375 --> 01:59:31.285
Houston.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11360-1
01:59:32.543 --> 01:59:35.955
experiencing it, but obviously
they experience it in entirely

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11347-0
01:59:33.115 --> 01:59:33.355
No.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11360-2
01:59:35.955 --> 01:59:37.165
different ways and so.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11390-0
01:59:37.205 --> 01:59:40.878
Yeah, that's a great idea to
juxtapose that and, ah,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11390-1
01:59:40.878 --> 01:59:45.173
wonderful. I read there's so
well characterized, and I I love

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11390-2
01:59:45.173 --> 01:59:47.875
this phrase. Was it benign
puzzlement.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11392-0
01:59:48.305 --> 01:59:48.945
Yes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11397-0
01:59:49.285 --> 01:59:50.755
But the dog wouldn't.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11412-0
01:59:53.385 --> 01:59:57.100
Yeah, I'm. I'm very, very
clearly situated little details

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11412-1
01:59:57.100 --> 01:59:58.765
like the Rusty gate hinge.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11415-0
01:59:59.785 --> 02:00:01.575
Catch and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11426-0
02:00:05.045 --> 02:00:07.955
Very precise right from the
start. So you you can actually.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11439-0
02:00:08.765 --> 02:00:12.595
With your eyes have parking and
the tracks in the mud and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11460-0
02:00:14.235 --> 02:00:18.881
Just kind of confused with this
this really witty voice. I think

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11453-0
02:00:18.595 --> 02:00:18.885
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11460-1
02:00:18.881 --> 02:00:21.525
it's a mark of you was actually
but.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11469-0
02:00:24.325 --> 02:00:29.000
Enjoy. That's great. Yeah. I
think any other comments,

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11469-1
02:00:29.000 --> 02:00:29.765
thoughts.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11491-0
02:00:34.105 --> 02:00:36.846
Yeah, it kind of feels like, oh,
I want to know what happens

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11491-1
02:00:36.846 --> 02:00:39.812
next, though. What? What's going
on up bridal path? And it's it's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11491-2
02:00:39.812 --> 02:00:40.845
really taking me there.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11497-0
02:00:41.815 --> 02:00:42.395
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11522-0
02:00:41.965 --> 02:00:45.754
Yeah, OK. Got a real progress
with these characters and, but I

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11522-1
02:00:45.754 --> 02:00:49.062
was always feel like there's
like a slight. Ohh. God's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11522-2
02:00:49.062 --> 02:00:50.685
nothing happens to the dog.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11566-0
02:00:52.755 --> 02:00:57.242
She's not really not countries
she. She doesn't know that. You

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11566-1
02:00:57.242 --> 02:01:01.728
know, he could get shot if he
looks at the shoot the wrong way

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11566-2
02:01:01.728 --> 02:01:06.356
or get lost in the woods or, you
know, get stuck in a foxhole or

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11566-3
02:01:06.356 --> 02:01:08.065
something. You know, so.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11573-0
02:01:08.795 --> 02:01:10.335
Yeah, it it, it was point.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11582-0
02:01:11.005 --> 02:01:13.015
The characters were quite alive
for me.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11584-0
02:01:15.015 --> 02:01:15.385
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11586-0
02:01:16.225 --> 02:01:16.485
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11619-0
02:01:19.155 --> 02:01:23.606
A lot like said as well that the
range Rovers got shiny wheels

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11591-0
02:01:19.205 --> 02:01:19.835
They want.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11619-1
02:01:23.606 --> 02:01:27.703
which are a lot of range Rovers
around here too have nice

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11619-2
02:01:27.703 --> 02:01:29.115
Chinese clean wheel.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11621-0
02:01:29.965 --> 02:01:30.295
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11623-0
02:01:31.595 --> 02:01:31.875
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11632-0
02:01:32.635 --> 02:01:35.285
Yeah. Would you put the like the
puppyhood in London?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11629-0
02:01:33.575 --> 02:01:34.035
Not many.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11661-0
02:01:36.505 --> 02:01:40.348
It kind of harks back to, you
know, like, like she's she's not

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11661-1
02:01:40.348 --> 02:01:43.946
really from the country, she
she's so she she's gonna make

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11661-2
02:01:43.946 --> 02:01:46.995
mistakes and not even know she's
making mistakes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11671-0
02:01:47.315 --> 02:01:49.645
Yeah, that's exactly it, yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11693-0
02:01:48.215 --> 02:01:51.658
Yes. Yeah. When? Yeah. Yeah.
When you said she pulled across

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11676-0
02:01:49.915 --> 02:01:50.395
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11693-1
02:01:51.658 --> 02:01:54.987
the gate. I was thinking of
somebody's gonna say something

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11693-2
02:01:54.987 --> 02:01:55.325
about.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11695-0
02:01:56.755 --> 02:01:56.995
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11700-0
02:01:57.225 --> 02:01:58.865
Somebody allowed and opinion.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11703-0
02:01:59.795 --> 02:02:00.325
Yes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11708-0
02:02:01.015 --> 02:02:01.295
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11710-0
02:02:01.065 --> 02:02:01.735
Yeah, and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11711-0
02:02:01.105 --> 02:02:02.425
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11714-0
02:02:04.135 --> 02:02:04.725
That's.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11725-0
02:02:05.875 --> 02:02:08.845
Yeah, a very good contrast to
the dog as well.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11751-0
02:02:10.345 --> 02:02:14.236
And that she's she's kind of
always glibly at ease in the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11751-1
02:02:14.236 --> 02:02:18.396
environment. Like you selected
to make mistakes because she's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11751-2
02:02:18.396 --> 02:02:20.475
very goal orientated, which is.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11792-0
02:02:22.215 --> 02:02:26.409
The walk the path such as the
dog has to deal with the the

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11763-0
02:02:24.495 --> 02:02:24.775
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11792-1
02:02:26.409 --> 02:02:30.176
moment by moment, actual
physical reality of what is

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11792-2
02:02:30.176 --> 02:02:34.512
passing through and love that
phrase you had for the company

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11785-0
02:02:31.215 --> 02:02:31.625
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11792-3
02:02:34.512 --> 02:02:34.725
of.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11838-0
02:02:35.965 --> 02:02:39.946
Cacophony of scents. Yeah, so,
so, so the dog wants to spend

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11801-0
02:02:38.005 --> 02:02:38.355
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11838-1
02:02:39.946 --> 02:02:43.993
time, and she thinks the dog's
frightened for some reason. So

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11838-2
02:02:43.993 --> 02:02:48.234
she she's not even. She doesn't
even know what her own dog is is

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11838-3
02:02:48.234 --> 02:02:49.735
thinking. Imagine that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11840-0
02:02:50.305 --> 02:02:51.305
Yeah, yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11871-0
02:02:52.075 --> 02:02:55.381
As the book we the Twitter
followers and I can imagine, I

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11846-0
02:02:52.225 --> 02:02:52.655
It's hard.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11871-1
02:02:55.381 --> 02:02:58.915
can ohh right. What? What am I
gonna write to impress people?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11871-2
02:02:58.915 --> 02:03:01.935
Internet followers, rather than
being in the moment.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11874-0
02:03:02.375 --> 02:03:02.845
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11875-0
02:03:02.555 --> 02:03:02.785
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11878-0
02:03:03.355 --> 02:03:03.825
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11899-0
02:03:03.905 --> 02:03:08.430
The fact that she's only got 7
followers as well, but she's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11899-1
02:03:08.430 --> 02:03:11.295
very, you know, very important
to to.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11911-0
02:03:12.145 --> 02:03:16.395
Local this sort of thing isn't
that if nobody following you.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11918-0
02:03:18.795 --> 02:03:19.205
Ohh.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11936-0
02:03:19.075 --> 02:03:23.061
With the. Yeah, exactly. And the
dog is a wonderful device for

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11936-1
02:03:23.061 --> 02:03:25.465
drawing out her character as
well as.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11944-0
02:03:26.755 --> 02:03:30.255
Is this topic I'm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11969-0
02:03:30.215 --> 02:03:33.997
The doctor, he that and and that
the dog is called David. But she

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11963-0
02:03:33.845 --> 02:03:34.715
Oh yes.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11969-1
02:03:33.997 --> 02:03:36.345
mispronounces it because she's
she's it.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11966-0
02:03:35.145 --> 02:03:35.575
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11997-0
02:03:36.725 --> 02:03:41.323
And so so yeah, I thought it was
important that we named the dog

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11973-0
02:03:37.015 --> 02:03:37.445
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11997-1
02:03:41.323 --> 02:03:45.212
before we named her the that
they, they have parity of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11991-0
02:03:43.525 --> 02:03:43.895
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/11997-2
02:03:45.212 --> 02:03:46.485
character. That's.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12002-0
02:03:46.745 --> 02:03:49.035
That's really interesting. Yeah,
and.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12009-0
02:03:50.415 --> 02:03:52.695
I built the whole dynamic which.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12038-0
02:03:56.015 --> 02:03:59.062
Is going to stimulate the rest
of the story. I think

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12038-1
02:03:59.062 --> 02:04:02.856
interesting ways. It's it's very
difficult to write about animals

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12038-2
02:04:02.856 --> 02:04:04.925
in a way that isn't sentimental
or.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12040-0
02:04:05.655 --> 02:04:06.135
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12051-0
02:04:06.135 --> 02:04:10.402
Patronizing. OK, cute then. But
I think actually we've achieved

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12051-1
02:04:10.402 --> 02:04:10.735
that.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12056-0
02:04:13.035 --> 02:04:14.025
It's a happy in both.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12069-0
02:04:14.735 --> 02:04:18.325
Inside the dog's mind and and
outside the dog's mind.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12073-0
02:04:19.395 --> 02:04:20.025
Observing.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12095-0
02:04:19.835 --> 02:04:24.012
Yeah, I think I probably clearly
come out on the dog's side that

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12086-0
02:04:23.555 --> 02:04:24.015
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12095-1
02:04:24.012 --> 02:04:27.095
that the dog is the likeable
character in this.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12098-0
02:04:27.485 --> 02:04:27.895
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12105-0
02:04:27.895 --> 02:04:29.485
As so often is the way.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12114-0
02:04:30.945 --> 02:04:32.635
Just stick to see how it
evolves.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12116-0
02:04:35.965 --> 02:04:36.275
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12166-0
02:04:36.525 --> 02:04:41.139
Hi folks. I think we'll leave it
there for today. Well done.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12166-1
02:04:41.139 --> 02:04:45.677
That's the old 3 grains and
technicalities which appologize

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12136-0
02:04:45.065 --> 02:04:45.485
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12166-2
02:04:45.677 --> 02:04:50.441
about, but I will send some I
relate to say some supplementary

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12166-3
02:04:50.441 --> 02:04:55.433
material including the pieces we
didn't look at certain pieces of

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12166-4
02:04:55.433 --> 02:04:56.945
jigsaw fit together.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12165-0
02:04:57.735 --> 02:04:58.035
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12187-0
02:04:58.745 --> 02:05:04.012
So, so work on those pieces for
our workshop next week, I said

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12187-1
02:05:04.012 --> 02:05:06.185
between 500 to 1000 words.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12189-0
02:05:06.785 --> 02:05:07.215
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12207-0
02:05:08.605 --> 02:05:11.910
If you go over and over, don't
worry. But it's got to be a

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12207-1
02:05:11.910 --> 02:05:15.327
length that that we can share in
a class and still allow our

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12207-2
02:05:15.327 --> 02:05:16.055
grant to get.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12213-0
02:05:17.095 --> 02:05:19.555
Paramount for attention
equivalent of attention.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12215-0
02:05:20.495 --> 02:05:20.975
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12218-0
02:05:22.795 --> 02:05:23.585
Puns.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12225-0
02:05:25.075 --> 02:05:27.745
Yet so any comments or
questions?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12227-0
02:05:28.275 --> 02:05:28.755
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12237-0
02:05:30.905 --> 02:05:33.615
Yeah. Are we thinking come over
next week?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12240-0
02:05:34.725 --> 02:05:35.365
Are we thinking?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12250-0
02:05:36.075 --> 02:05:38.735
Carmarthen next week or online
again.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12258-0
02:05:41.215 --> 02:05:43.305
Well, I have put it down. It's
online.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12260-0
02:05:45.625 --> 02:05:46.355
But.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12262-0
02:05:47.215 --> 02:05:48.025
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12269-0
02:05:50.215 --> 02:05:52.245
If you'd really like to meet in
person.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12306-0
02:05:53.115 --> 02:05:55.680
And I don't mind user
experience. So just because

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12279-0
02:05:54.155 --> 02:05:54.715
Talk to you.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12306-1
02:05:55.680 --> 02:05:58.706
you've mentioned comma then I
thought ohh well that that's

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12306-2
02:05:58.706 --> 02:06:01.886
fairly easy for me, but I don't
know what it's like for other

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12306-3
02:06:01.886 --> 02:06:02.245
people.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12314-0
02:06:03.915 --> 02:06:04.715
Yeah, something.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12323-0
02:06:05.675 --> 02:06:08.215
Yeah, if we do next week's
workshop online.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12324-0
02:06:08.885 --> 02:06:09.315
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12339-0
02:06:09.895 --> 02:06:15.554
So that's what I put on Moodle
and hopefully by then sort it

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12334-0
02:06:12.865 --> 02:06:13.255
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12339-1
02:06:15.554 --> 02:06:15.925
out.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12366-0
02:06:16.625 --> 02:06:19.888
I've has gone on with sharing
today but but obviously we can.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12366-1
02:06:19.888 --> 02:06:22.993
Everyone could see it on Moodle
anyway because it could be

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12366-2
02:06:22.993 --> 02:06:25.045
before him so that won't be a
problem.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12390-0
02:06:26.575 --> 02:06:31.004
Umm, but I'll look into doing
the poetry workshop in

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12390-1
02:06:31.004 --> 02:06:34.345
Carmarthen week after the poetry
class.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12384-0
02:06:32.075 --> 02:06:32.545
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12388-0
02:06:33.335 --> 02:06:33.565
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12392-0
02:06:34.635 --> 02:06:35.095
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12399-0
02:06:40.735 --> 02:06:41.785
And you can tell your.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12402-0
02:06:41.075 --> 02:06:43.645
Apply for a parking permit there
as well.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12406-0
02:06:44.595 --> 02:06:45.515
What was that show?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12420-0
02:06:46.585 --> 02:06:50.550
I love to apply for the parking
permit in car Carmarthen as well

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12420-1
02:06:50.550 --> 02:06:50.855
then.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12424-0
02:06:50.555 --> 02:06:52.395
Why are you OK?

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12427-0
02:06:52.865 --> 02:06:53.625
Umm.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12456-0
02:06:53.785 --> 02:06:57.628
When I came up to Lampeter, I
went to the office. So you were

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12456-1
02:06:57.628 --> 02:07:01.347
quite like, ohh, don't worry,
because I reckon it would. It

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12438-0
02:06:57.845 --> 02:06:58.225
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12456-2
02:07:01.347 --> 02:07:05.065
would sort itself out. But then
he said here's the QR code.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12469-0
02:07:05.735 --> 02:07:09.855
So the QR code which took me to
the parking people's.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12476-0
02:07:10.695 --> 02:07:13.145
Website and all that's do is put
my number in.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12481-0
02:07:13.985 --> 02:07:14.735
And it was fine.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12482-0
02:07:14.545 --> 02:07:14.855
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12505-0
02:07:15.575 --> 02:07:19.586
Yeah. See, I've registered for
Lampeter, but I can't find a way

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12505-1
02:07:19.586 --> 02:07:22.405
of putting my number down for
Carmarthen so.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12501-0
02:07:20.315 --> 02:07:20.745
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12518-0
02:07:22.315 --> 02:07:24.765
Yeah. See, I've registered for
command and where I was.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12527-0
02:07:23.465 --> 02:07:27.405
I can't use those QR codes
anyway, my phones too old.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12530-0
02:07:27.875 --> 02:07:28.375
Alright.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12541-0
02:07:28.175 --> 02:07:31.276
Yeah, I think if you just, you
could probably just register it

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12541-1
02:07:31.276 --> 02:07:31.965
at the office.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12544-0
02:07:33.935 --> 02:07:35.205
Well, OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12571-0
02:07:36.525 --> 02:07:39.558
I'll be out the pros and cons
for everyone and I'll let you

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12571-1
02:07:39.558 --> 02:07:42.591
know by the end of the week
whether it's going to be online

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12557-0
02:07:40.495 --> 02:07:40.735
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12571-2
02:07:42.591 --> 02:07:45.725
or not. But we've definitely got
one more in person workshop.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12565-0
02:07:43.145 --> 02:07:43.655
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12576-0
02:07:46.555 --> 02:07:47.385
Writing workshop.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12575-0
02:07:46.895 --> 02:07:47.205
Yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12578-0
02:07:48.015 --> 02:07:48.465
Yeah, yeah.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12581-0
02:07:49.395 --> 02:07:49.815
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12585-0
02:07:51.165 --> 02:07:51.895
Alright then.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12600-0
02:07:52.895 --> 02:07:56.255
Thanks everybody. You're good
writing and to see you.

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02:07:53.075 --> 02:07:53.375
So.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12597-0
02:07:54.315 --> 02:07:54.995
OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12613-0
02:07:57.275 --> 02:08:00.235
Online on Tuesday, OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12612-0
02:07:58.955 --> 02:08:00.365
Good. Thank you.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12611-0
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My children.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12617-0
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Alright, OK.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12618-0
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OK, great.

57aea252-99ad-473c-b2bd-9bdb2db17834/12622-0
02:08:03.665 --> 02:08:04.555
Hi everybody.

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I don't like.